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Thread: I hate this powder measure with every bone in my body.

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    Im in a similar boat as the OP. I liked it for flake and extruded powder but it was infuriating to use with any spherical powder but especially the very fine powders like True Blue or H110.

    I also finally upgraded to a uniflow and put the old one aside.


    I do miss the ability to rotate the hopper closed and empty it at the end of a session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawlerbrook View Post
    I like my Reddings but the Lyman 55 still has a place on my bench.
    Same here except only one Redding with both micrometers.
    I use the Lyman 55 a lot as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ebb View Post
    It is my understanding that these are the absolute best. https://www.harrellsprecision.com/co...powder-measure
    Yes I have one of those and it is smooth.

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    Redding BR-30 for the precision stuff, Redding 3-BR for the boomer stuff. Pistol micrometer chamber in the 3=BR for the pistol stuff. Started with the Lyman 55, accurate and repeatable enough just finicky to get back to the same charge. The Micrometer heads are the way to go. I had several of the RCBS Uniflow's, good but not as good as the Redding's.

    I still have a set of the Lee scoops for first loads with a new rifle where I'm scaling every load to develop starting loads.

    Both the Redding's require an annual disassembly and cleaning, waxing of the cylinder to work optimally.

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    I mistakenly bought one and would force my way through 11FS(H110/296 essentially) when starting out and it was terrible, wobbling and leaking everywhere. I now have their metal one for low volume stuff and it's very nice and better in every way. I've also got 2 of their auto drums with no such issue, I think because the surface is machined whereas the plastic one is a warped molded surface.
    I'll use it occasionally for flake or rifle ball but the Deluxe and Auto Drums get most of the use.

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    No doubt that an RCBS or other similar measure is a bit step up from the Lee. Except, using stick powder. The Lee does so well with the IMR family of powders.

    I have one I've used for about a decade, and it was well used when I got it second hand. I lapped the rotor, and tuned it a bit, and it does acceptably with ball powder now as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopsign32v View Post
    . I decided money wasn't a factor and that this morning I would solve my issue.
    This might be the perfect opportunity for why you "need" to get one of those electronic powder dribbler things.
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    Problem solved.
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    I have an excellent condition RCBS thrower, Dillon throwers on 550bs, Lee Perfects as OP shows, Lee Perfect Deluxe, Lee Auto Disk and Lee Auto Drum. I've had and moved on from Hornady Pacific, CH, Lyman 55. Apart from the CH the little Lee Perfect, properly conditioned and set up per Lee's instructions has been the most accurate, consistent and reliable. The up-market Deluxe is as good, followed by the Auto Disk. I load rifle and pistol calibres including 22Hornet, 222Rem, 223Rem, 22-250 Rem, 243Win, 6.5x55Swede, 270Win, 308Win, 30-30Win, 30-06Springfield, 303B, 32-20 WCF, 38-55Win, 44-40 WCF, 44 Mag, 45ACP, 45Colt, 454Casull.

    So I use quite a variety of powders from fine like Titegroup and H110/W296 through flake powders like 700X and 800X to various stick powders. Across all of these no thrower is flawless and some powders are problematic (800X sucks and H110, W296 and Titegroup all leak to some extent. Long stick rifle powders are always prone to hanging up ) but the Lee Perfect and Perfect Deluxe are the ones that get the most use on my bench followed by the Dillon on my 550Bs. The Dillon are the least leaky but not the most accurate. They're pretty good tho and well within the margin of shooter ability. With the Lee throwers conditioning is imperative and fine adjustment of the clamp/clutch tension is advised. All my trickle up loading uses the Lee Perfect/Deluxe except when I use my RCBS Summit press when I like to use the RCBS thrower because, well, its the same colour....lol. And with trickle up fine accuracy doesn't really matter. Mostly it gets used with stick powders. The Lee auto-disks are dedicated to a pistol calibre like 44-40 on a 4 hole turret press. I just like their repeatability once I have a load sorted. They take a fair bit of tweaking not to leak unacceptably with the very fine powders.

    But each to their own as YMMV.

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    I actually like the Lee - but I hate how it mounts. You can't get a loading block under it. Maybe it's the CFE powder causing the problems. Bullseye and Unique work fine in mine.

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    I have Harrels measures, RCBS, Belding and Mull, Lyman and Redding measures. most use a stand with 7.8 14 thread to mount but the Harrels and Belding and Mulls use a clamp style mount so the stand cant have the hole in it.

    2 pipe flanges a pipe nipple and some flat stock will make a solid stand. the hard part is drilling the hole and tapping the threads for the measure. 7/8 14 threads arnt cheap and turn hard, you want a bigger tap wrench. The plus is a piece of 1/4 x 2" flat stock can be cut to make as deep a throat as you want. Depending on the flanges you sue you will need 1/4" bolts and nuts to hold the top plate to the flange ( or they can be welded). Here several top plates can be made for other measures.
    here if the welder is available 1/4" x 2" flat stock can be used for the entire stand 1-1/4 x 2 x 3 for base, 1- 1/4x2xlengtth you want the hieght of stand, and 1- 1/4x2x depth of throat + 2''. base and top are welded on center line to upright. Drill and or tap all holes before welding

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    I have one I bought when they first hit the market . First thing I did was dump a tsp of powdered graphite in and cycle it till it was all out , then done it again and I have had no trouble with it since It did tale a bit to figure an easier way to set it than the one they provide but once I figured it out it has been smooth sailing since. It can be a bit gritty with some stick powders but I've only had a minor shearing bind and never a lock up. I have many more RCBS, B&M , Lyman , Ideal, Hornady measures and they are all nicer built but they are not any more accurate than that cheap nylon Lee measure. A better stand would have been a big plus but I figured a workaround that worked for me so even that is not a big deal.
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    I cut my own baffle from the pattern here:
    https://www.scribd.com/document/428451400/baffle-pdf

    Made mine from a scrap of aluminum flashing, but a beverage can should work. It isn’t exactly load bearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    I cut my own baffle from the pattern here:
    https://www.scribd.com/document/428451400/baffle-pdf

    Made mine from a scrap of aluminum flashing, but a beverage can should work. It isn’t exactly load bearing.


    Beat me to it. I did the same thing at one point but I think I also bought one for one of my other calibers. They work for me.

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    I’ve had the LEE version the OP shows…had. Years later, my father gave me one of the LEE Deluxe Perfect Powder Measures with stand. I was reluctant to use the latter because of my experience with the former, and because I knew what “good” was owning a Harrell’s. Once I finally got over my bias enough to try it, I decided the LEE DPPM wasn’t bad. It’s a long way from a Harrell’s, but it is far better than the original, all plastic LEE PPM.

    I’ve got Harrell’s, JDS Quick Measure, Dillon, Hornady, Lyman 55, CH, and LEE powder measures. I’ve got a Hornady and an RCBS electronic powder dispensers. Every one of them has its issues and quirks.

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    I have a Lyman 55 that is acceptable, but does hang up and chop stick powder. When I used my stepfather's equipment to load, he had an old Hollywood that always worked perfectly, and did not chop stick powder (at least not that I was aware of.) Since then I have looked for another Hollywood, but it seems they have reached the realm of vintage equipment meaning high prices for people who only use them for display. Still, I would love to have one.

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    I used the Lyman powder measure and it worked well. But there was a point when I bought a Harrell’s Schutzen (sp?) measure for pistol. It is a joy to use. Some powders will never meter well in any measure. But the Harrell measure is probably the best reloading equipment purchase I have made. It changed the way I reload, to have a measure in which I have that much confidence.

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    The Lee PPM works very well with stick powders, due to the silastic "wipers" - and it's in my stash for exactly that reason.

    Hated that RCBS dump from the first week I had it. It never made me happy. I ordered a Lyman Brass Smith dump and that thing not only likes ball powders , but everything else I put thru it.. Youngest Brother got the RCBS in a Care Package - and he loves it.

    YMMV, but I also bought some thread/neck adapters so I can fit the PPM and the Brass Smith into the Lee Powder-thru dies. 99% of the time I am happy on a powder stand, but periodically I get tired of all the extra motion and just mount a dump on the die and crank it out.

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    The Lee PPM is all I have ever used for the last 40 years. I still load 180+ rifle charges per month with it.
    The action feels better on other measures, but the Lee is just as accurate.

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    I have 2 of the old fat tube, wide drum RCBS that have the large and small sides and micrometer. I added the lexan tubes. May not measure to the exact weight but usually within ±1 gr. The lexan tubes came with the powder baffle. I have a little dandy with a Bailey Boats adjustable rotor for small loads.
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