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    Why, oh why do they do this??

    Attachment 330152 I am curious as to how much this name being engraved on the side of this 20 ga Browning A-5 effects the value. My son bought this and it was his Dentist who died a while back and he was a bird hunter so the gun has been hunted with but not abused. I would grade the gun at 90% or maybe a tad better.
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away"--John 6:37

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    Attachment 330153 Here is a Marlin/Glenfield that a guy scratched his name AND SS# in the side of the receiver. If it wasn't on there it would have been a 95% or better gun! I bought it for a pretty darned good price and it is VERY accurate but I am sure this man did this before the days of identity theft! For crying out loud, these guns have a serial number.
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away"--John 6:37

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    I have passed on more than one rifle/revolver because someone with a "chicken little" complex engraved or scratched their name or social security number. It is really stupid to put a SS # out there for all the world to see. my .02 anyway, james

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    years ago they did not have computers to search numbers quickly, they had to do it by hand and local police did not have resources to do a number search or the time so people would put their name on stuff so if it was stolen they had a chance of getting it back if it was recovered, all my grandfathers guns have his name on them but he did it in hidden areas
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    Maybe planed on never dying and or Selling the gun.

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    It only takes ALL the collector value from it. It is still a fine and valuable shotgun in my book. jd
    It seems that people who do almost nothing, often complain loudly when it's time to do it.

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    I wrote my driver's license number of my first 22 rimfire. It does not have a factory serial number. I think I bought it in 1965. Don't ever plan on selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodat View Post
    It only takes ALL the collector value from it. It is still a fine and valuable shotgun in my book. jd
    It does indeed but it would make a fine hunting gun. It has a 27" Mod barrel and a 25" skeet choked barrel AND a leather bound Browning trunk. I don't know what my son paid for it but he is the kind of guy that keeps his stuff forever....not a gun trader like his dad.
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away"--John 6:37

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    If you know someone with a laser engraver you could have the stamping altered to something other than the previous owner’s name.

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    Some folks to it to purposefully take most of the value off of a gun in case it gets stolen.

    I have a couple like that which were professionally engraved and 'personalized.
    If they ever get stolen, or my heirs want to sell them,
    they can't get anywhere near the price the guns are-- or were really worth.
    Gone are the days of wooden ships and Iron men.
    I doubt we shall see their likes again.

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    A famous name will many times have a favorable effect on the price of a gun if the name is akin to William F. Cody, P. Garret, W. Earp, etc. scratched in the side with papers proving previous ownership. I've seen lesser known "law enforcers" names crudely etched on 19th century weapons that brought a lot of money because there was paperwork that verified its authenticity! While I wouldn't turn down a Jack O'conner rifle, or Elmer Keith revolver because it was engraved with their names on them; I also probably couldn't afford the price, even if it was discounted. I have one firearm with my initials engraved on it that will go to my son when I pass; if he decides to sell it, he can replace the floor plate and sell the rest!

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    The only one I could have saved was a Winchester m 94 collector gun that had a guys name engraved on the bottom tang and was hidden when the lever was closed. But...a friend of mine saw the AAA wood and octagon barrel and just had to have it so I let him have it for what I had in it. I could have draw filled that one and reblued the spot but it mattered not to him.
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away"--John 6:37

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodat View Post
    It only takes ALL the collector value from it. It is still a fine and valuable shotgun in my book. jd
    This. If it has someone's name or such on it, bargain the price down because of it. Pretty sure the critter on the receiving end won't care what it says.

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    Ego, rack it up to EGO. As to the gun, well you have a prime A5 that is perfectly good to hunt with.

    Trying to cover it or conceal it is going to be a pain, and will not gain you anything. Hunt with it and be happy.
    I truly believe we need to get back to basics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murf205 View Post
    Attachment 330152 I am curious as to how much this name being engraved on the side of this 20 ga Browning A-5 effects the value. My son bought this and it was his Dentist who died a while back and he was a bird hunter so the gun has been hunted with but not abused. I would grade the gun at 90% or maybe a tad better.
    The owner bought the rifle for himself, not for anyone else. Market value 50 years later was no concern.
    Warning: I know Judo. If you force me to prove it I'll shoot you.

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    It wouldn't bother me a hoot Murf205.
    Firearms are tools or toys.
    Always believed providence added to heirloom value anyways.
    Those are both nice examples of firearms to have.
    A sidenote, my identity was stolen three times before it was a big deal.
    Once by a business in another town, by a distant cousin and my x wife with her boyfriend/current husband.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILCO View Post
    It wouldn't bother me a hoot Murf205.
    Firearms are tools or toys.
    Always believed providence added to heirloom value anyways.
    Those are both nice examples of firearms to have.
    A sidenote, my identity was stolen three times before it was a big deal.
    Once by a business in another town, by a distant cousin and my x wife with her boyfriend/current husband.
    Dang Wilco, you should get a free pass for strangling that bunch. It doesn't bother me that my little Marlin has the name on the side because I only gave $400 for a 98% rifle and it shoots as good as anyone I have ever owned or better.Attachment 330174Attachment 330175 So for me anyway, the real beauty is in the performance but if my son sold the A-5 he would probably take a bath on it.
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away"--John 6:37

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    Curious if the Dr. had the gun engraved for himself or if it was a retirement gift or some such that was 'presented' to him.

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    The Doctor's name looks to be professionally done, so why worry? If it was a gift from a wife, co-workers, etc., that is part of the gun's history. I have a Sweet16 that was a wedding gift from my wife. There is no name inscribed, but it is my favorite PA grouse gun. My name, professionally done, would not bother me or the several friends who want to but it.

    I never bought a gun with resale as a collectable in mind. A well-done name would not bother me.

    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_M View Post
    Curious if the Dr. had the gun engraved for himself or if it was a retirement gift or some such that was 'presented' to him.
    Good question Mike. He was a partner in the dental practice with a friend of mine and I never knew he hunted since I only knew him casually. The gun is a 1961 and I would guess it was new when he got it. The travel trunk has a bit of wear and the extra skeet barrel shows the tiniest bit of blue wear from the recoiling of the barrel so it appears that it was used quite a bit. He retired a couple of yrs before my friend and his wife got killed riding a golf cart after dark on the side of the hiway at their hunting club and the practice dissolved of course. My son happened upon the gun from one of his buddies that had never met Dr Rogers but I recognized his name immediately.Attachment 330205Attachment 330206 You can see the light wear the gun has as well as the leather bound Browning case in the pics. Kinda' meat to run across a gun that belonged to someone you knew after many yrs.

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