i got to go shootin sunday!!! its the first time in so long i cant remember the last time. it was a last minute thing and was late in the day so i didnt get much organized testing done, but it was fun and i did have a few successes. the guns i took were my redhawk 44, my smith 38S&W, and my destroyer carbine 9mm bergmann. the load for the 44 was lino boolits cast in a lyman 429421 lubed with lyman 50\50 over 20 grains of 2400. i fired about 40 rounds and to my delight the is no lead in my gun, at all! the last load i tryed was terrible. the accuracy test was bunk because im so out of practice. i did manage to get some two inch groups at 20 even though my trigger control is out to lunch and was shaking badly. if i can get some practice the accuracy will come back quicly. the load for the 38S&W was the 358158RF lapped and sized .363, lubed with lyman 50\50 over 2.2 grains of bullseye. this load performed much better than previous loads but after 50 rounds i still had much more lead in the gun than i want. not as bad as the last time by a long shot. the gun had a light coat of lead in the cylinder throats and in the forcing cone and first inch of barrell. i cant seem to understand how it leads in the cylinder. i didnt slug all the throats but the ones i did measure .363 and the boolits are tight. also all the throats lead equally. the accuracy was good untill the end and then it opened up. the load for the destroyer was a 124RN tumble lubed with the lee stuff over 3 grains of bullseye. i have to say this is the first time the lee lube worked for me ever! i fired about 50 rounds and its accurate and alot of fun to shoot. the barrel was good and clean afterwards and honestly i just wiped it down with a gun rag and put it away. im very happy all in all with how great everything went and even with the little leading in the 38 its so much better than before its almost exceptable the way it is. our host is a friend of my youngest son and it looks like we are going to be able to go back when we want.