I'm curious how those of y'all recover bullets from the berms at gun ranges. I have a range with a mix of red clay & sandstone for berms. I was curious what works for folks.
Thanks in advance!
I'm curious how those of y'all recover bullets from the berms at gun ranges. I have a range with a mix of red clay & sandstone for berms. I was curious what works for folks.
Thanks in advance!
1/4" hardware cloth on a 2x2 wood frame with drawer handles is what I use. 1 or 2 shovels of dirt then shake back and forth to remove dirt. the clay and rock at your range will be a bit of an issue but should still be doable.
the more sturdy you can make the sifting frame the better. I have not done any mining since leaving Florida but found that doing it after a rain was better, no dust and once you know what to look for wet lead in dirt is easy to spot the heavy concentration areas. I have a couple welded stainless sifting trays that work equally well for shaking out polishing media. MSC direct has stainless wire mesh.
1/4" hardware cloth on a 2x4 frame worked well for me and is easy and cheap to make.
I was lucky; the berms I mined from were all sand faced so what was dumped on the screen sifted itself, leaving just the slugs, a bit of gravel from the range surface and little else. Clay or rocky soil makes for more work and a bucket with more waste material in it that takes washing or hand picking to remove before melting, or more trash skimming and more time and propane if left in the "ore" that you heat because of its insulating effect.
If done regularly and in volume, the industrious and mechanically handy have made mechanized rotary sifters.
If the clay is almost pure, wet, it will be gobs of goo. dry it will be like rocks. What i did was load up material from areas that seem to have good concentrations in 5 gal. buckets and take home. with a hose, squirt water in the bucket and squish the clay up with your hands until it turns into a slurry. the bullets sink to the bottom. I did this with shot too.
The screen & 2x4 frame is the way to go.
You might want two of them. Sift with 1/4" the first time, then again with something finer to catch all the .22s.
I ya want to get fancy, look at what the dinosaur chasers and archeology folks use that looks like a cradle
to hold their screen and shake it without them having to stand there and hold it.
I don't wash mine before the melt.
I put it all in a empty pot, heat, skim, pour. Then the next batch goes into a empty pot again.
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IF your doing it on site I'd build a simple tripod to hang it from, it will get heavy quickly
I've used a 2'x2' frame using 1/4" hardware mesh over a wheelbarrow and it worked fine last time.
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Thinking of another project! Can mice get thru that 1/4" hardware cloth?
The 2x4 frames work good, add a set of drawer handles to each end, and a piece of furring strip overtop of edges of screen, (saves on cuts and scrapes on my hands and arms, also strengthens the screen to make it last longer.)
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Looks like the 1/4" hardware cloth will be my main material. No problem in getting any of that. I use it in my work.
As for mice going through it. Generally,, no,, but I also advise that if you want it to be secure,, liquid, expanding foam, steel wool, then the hardware cloth to keep the buggers out.
The best I have found is to be there after a heavy rain. Use a leaf rake and rake the bullets down into a pile. Then shovel and shake in 1/4 hardware cloth. pick out big rocks and debris.
This works best after the clay has had a bitnof opportunity to dry. Otherwise it gums up.
I have about 800lbs of range scrap to melt down accumulated over 4 or 5 collection trips.
I do not attempt to dig and sift. That is way too much work to get scrap out of a clay bank. I have gotten 200lbs in as little as 20 minutes when the bullets were lying on top of the hard packed clay berm.
Luckily we have a lot of steel targets and plate racks at my range that do the job for me. I just bring a shovel for the pile of lead and jackets that accumulate beneath the plate racks.
Same thing here! I have not messed with range lead since the beginning of my casting carreer but back then I just picked it up off of the backstop. I could fill a 5 gallon bucket in an hour or less. I always thought it was cool to find nearly perfect jacketed 45's with no blemishes except for rifling marks.
I use an 1/8th inch screen, but I am collecting from a cement floor of an indoor range. It’s always dry and basically only lead. I screen now because I find that the very fine lead can be almost impossible to melt without it all ending up in the droth. Plus it takes more propane.
Like BK7 said, theres no way you can sift wet or dry clay very efficiently. either pick up from the top of the ground or use water to make the clay into thin watery clay and pour that liquid through the 1/4" screen
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