38 rifle or pistol? same with 44. I don't cast many pistol bullets.
17 cal
20 cal
22 cal
.243/6 mm
25 cal
6.5mm
.270
7mm
30 cal
32 cal
8mm
8mm Large (0.329)
338 cal
35 cal
9.3mm
38 cal
40 cal
44 cal (.427-.430)
45 cal
.475 cal
50 cal+
other
38 rifle or pistol? same with 44. I don't cast many pistol bullets.
I'm really liking my 32-40 for Scheutzen shooting. I wish I had started this type shooting many years earlier. It's really satisfying if you can understand that.
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I read somewhere somebody analyzed it from a bunch of different criteria and determined the .30-40 Krag was the ultimate rifle cartridge for cast bullets. Not gonna disagree, it's a very good one. Guess it all depends on which of those criteria were most important to you.
As has been mentioned, sometimes you’ve got to be more specific. I voted for 32 because for rifle, the 32-40 is hard to beat for everything from target to medium large game... they’ve been used for well over 110 years, and although brass may be difficult to find at Wal*Mart (it’s not there) it’s easily formed and worth the effort! Of course there are also the much loved (in some circles) 32 Spl and the extremely popular German 8 mm to add to the mix.
In handguns, the variety of 32s available makes any kind of shooting that can logically be done with a handgun convenient and effective. Anything from 32 Short & Wimpy to 327 Fed Mag and 32-20 with pretty much the same bunch of bullets.
Yep, if you just list “32” as a choice, it wins hands down!
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Since I finally have one and it's not even listed- 38-55 of course!
I'm gonna go with what ever you have at the moment . So far I have enjoyed everything I have tried cast boolits in .
If i had to choose a caliber i would go with .375 - .380 as for some reason i seem to be able to cast better bullets for my 38-55 and .375/444 Marlin than any other caliber. I have 7 moulds in this range and with all of them i get good bullets from the first pour and very few rejects.
I also cast for 25-35, .30-30, .303. .357 & 44-40, all of which seem to take me some time to get into the groove and start producing good bullets.
I'm thinking a .358 caliber rifle bullet might work well too.
45 acp, 44 special & mag, 38 special & 357 mag/max, 40 Smith, 454 Casull Mag, 9mm, 7.62x39, 7.62 NATO/308, 458 SOCOM, 35 Rem, 30-30, 22 Hornet, 5.56/223 and a few more. Performance is directly dependent on alloy used for each projectile though some are less picky on alloy choice which I have four bottom pour lead pots to keep from having to empty pots and put another in as I am lazy alomg with easily confused. Have a Lyman 200 grain 45 acp SWC that have used with wheel weights for 35 years and will put it up against any load going. Have a target at work where fired a 100 round 2" group at 50 feet two hand hold with no rest using a 1911 custom carry comp pistol. Was much smaller at 50 but lost my original aiming dot totally which aiming at a hole is hard to do tring to remember where the true point of aim was at beginning. They make major class and would use for defense without hesitation. It shoots 1.5" 10 shot groups.
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Once you pick an application you can have a discussion on what the "best" is. Until than it's no different than debating what's the best ice-cream flavor is. What's "best" for a lead saving quiet squirrel cartridge is vastly different than what is "best" for 1,000 yard BPCR. Same for almost all other applications.
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For somebody just interested in shooting who is getting into casting the first time, I’d say the .30 caliber. It has more good boolit designs in inexpensive production moulds than any other caliber. Good loads in this caliber will shoot out to “mid-range” well enough, and most shooters don’t go out anywhere near that far.
About the only deficiency would be somewhat lacking in power for big game hunting, where the diameter and weight would be a little below par at cast boolit velocities. This might not matter to a good field marksman, though.
Well, .45 covers a lot of territory, from 45/70 to .45 Colt, to .45 ACP, not to mention all the older black powder cartridges, so for sheer number of loads it gets my vote.
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I guessed the winner and voted 45 as well.
45 ACP and 45-70 have been very nice and easy for me for a long time. They also coat great.
45-70 hands down.
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My view FWIW is straight walled rifle cartridges:
- .357 max.
- .357 max. rimless
- .375 Winchester
- .44 mag.
- .444 Marlin
- .444 rimless
- .45-70
- 12 ga.
I like straight walled cartridges! The only one of those I currently own is .44 mag.
I have only owned and cast for limited calibers over the years:
- 9mm
- .44 mag.
- .30-30
- .308
- .303 British
- 7.65 x 53
- .45-70
- 20 ga. (slugs)
- 12 ga. (slugs)
I find smaller calibers (like .30 cal.) harder to find good top end loads so while there are lots of moulds available most seem suited to moderate cast boolit loads. Lightweight boolits can't be driven to "J" bullet velocities... or at least easily... and retain accuracy with no leading. Heavy boolits maybe.
I figure the mid range of .35 cal. to large bore are the most versatile overall and prefer .44 cal. and up. I've owned two .45-70's that digested everything from collar button boolits to over 500 gr. boolits easily and for the most part loaded to "J" boolits specs with PB boolits. No leading, good accuracy. Easy to load for. Maybe hard on lead with the heavyweights. About the only disadvantage I see here is steep trajectory at long range. The smaller bores may provide flatter long range trajectory.
If I had to choose one cartridge it would likely be a choice between .444 Marlin, .45-70 or 12 ga. and I think .45-70 would be the choice because it is about the most versatile and brass is readily available, lots of moulds from round ball to 600 gr.+, history, performance range (download for target, upload for big toothy critters), easy to get good accuracy at top end loads or anywhere on down to mouse fart loads.
I voted .45-70 because that is my most likely single choice for "best" overall for what I want. 12 ga. would run a close 2nd.
Like I said... FWIW this is "best" for me!
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45-70 best cast boolit ever made
Why did you leave out 9mm ?
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I voted for the .32 on account of it's excellent reputation in the hands of men such as Pope, Zischang, Schoyen, and of course the famous 200yd. Rowland group. That being said, I have gotten excellent accuracy with .22, 6mm, .25, .38, .40 & .45 cast bullets. Some being way out of the realm of what would be considered normal cast bullet usage..such as a 6mm Winchester-Lee straight-pull sporting rifle & .25 Ackley Krag Improved.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |