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I had a #1 in 45-70 and yep, full power loads will introduce you the the laws of physics and equal/opposite reactions.
Oddly enough, after i sold that rifle i regretted it and wanted another 45-70. I ended up with a Thompson Encore Katahdin Carbine. That thing is 2 pounds lighter than the #1. Even moderate loads will emphatically indicate the primer functioned (as you said it).
So you are done with shooting Dinosaurs, I know they are not pistol calibres but what about one of the English rook calibres, very accurate, no recoil, I have 3 they are great fun to shoot.
I've already been through cannon mode. Just as I was getting out Ohio got rifle season and I got pulled back in. I have 4 no. 3 Rugers, .223-45/70 & 2 in 375Win. Big calibres are fun but if I was to
have a 223 rebarreled I might go .30 carbine or 9mm. I don't own any but I wouldn't mind having a
small game rifle in 25-30 or 32 caliber. Not in a HV type catridge. A 327mg is interesting as it could be used from 32S&W through 327mg. I don't know if extractors would work.
On a .223 No.3 I think I would re-barrel it with a .25-45 Sharps. I could use the plentiful .223/.556 brass. Also could cast 60 gr. to 85 gr. cast for economy. I don't see too many .25-45 Sharps single shots around this neck of the woods.
Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from poor judgment.
I to have a #3 45-70 and am tired of the recoil. Even with 385gr boolits it hurts. Soooo what to do? I already have RB's in 7mm. 7-30 waters. 30-30, 7.92x33 Kruz. Will the extractor work on a 357 mag cartridge as well? If chambered to the max cartridge will leading occur if using the regular 357 mag cartridge?
Just try some Trapdoor loads from the Lyman manual. That is what I did with mine and recoil with a 405gr boolit wasn't bad and I took one deer with it, he couldn't tell the difference. Kind of a shame to alter a #3 when you can't get them anymore. I had 2 and let them go and regret it.
Bob
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I've had several original Trapdoors & RBs as well as some rebarrels in 45/70. I shot a lot of cast Ideal
322gr Gould Express HPs at 1200fps. It was a pleasant target load. It also did well in Marlin 1895.
fn1889m: what is it that you want the No. 3 with a new cartridge to do for you?
In 1982 (No. 3's were common back then, though not today) I had 2 No. 3's in .223 re-bored by P.O. Ackley's shop to .257 Roberts (this will do what a .25-45 Sharps will do, and more, just saying), used it for caribou, deer, varmints and general cast plinkin'. Recoil's comfortable and the .257 Roberts handles several applications. Your mention of a 7x57mm would be pretty nice also.
In 2005 had a No. 3 .223 barrel re-bored to .308 Win with a 1-11" twist. When I got that No. 3 it had left the factory as a .22 Hornet and someone had the chamber opened up with a .284 Win reamer, making it a .22-284. Had a spare No. 3 .223 barrel so had it re-bored to .308 Win by Cut Rifle in Prescott, AZ. Now as a .308 No. 3 it is an excellent performer with cast and them other kinda commercial bullets. .308 Win can be loaded light or heavy, take your pick.
I see some folks have mentioned the .357 Maximum as a consideration - splendid round, able to fire .38 Spcl. thru .357 Max.
Have 2 No. 3's in .30-40 Krag and that's a fine round also, with either cast or them commercial metal bullets. One I've used over the years, other unfired since leaving factory. No. 3's are fine carbines.
What is your intended use for your re-barreled No. 3?
A plinker, a hunter, long range, varmint, woods loafin' hiking carbine, or ?
Curious minds would like to know!!
Once we know, we'll be able to help ya get in trouble a lot easier!!
If you're still seeking a place to do No. 3 barrel work, they did my No. 3 in .308 Win.
http://www.cutrifle.com/
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Extractors from a Ruger No. 1 should drop right in to a No. 3, no real difference in the basic action...
38-55, would be super cool
I've shot most of the British Africa/India safari cartridges in full kill an elephant or cape buffalo loadings and I am not sure any of them whacked me as hard as a buddy's full house 45-70 loads in a #3. Two rounds with the #3 and I was done. 416 Rigby or 470 N.E. didn't hurt as much as that Ruger #3 did. 38-55 would be a great cartridge. You can load it down to pistol plinker loads or up to deer/Midwest bear load.
What's your end use goal? Choosing a caliber mainly depends on that. Everybody has a dream, and any of the above (except the rimless) would seem to be good. .357 in a single shot would be my choice right now.
The original goal was a hunting rifle in 7 mm Mauser or 6.5 Swede.
But lately I have been leaning towards a vintage or pistol cartridge for plinking.
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Not a #3 but this Martini is in 7MM Waters and shoots a ragged hole at 100yd. Light on recoil and deadly out to 200yd (the farthest I've shot it). The 38-55 or .375 would also make a nice gun.
The stock wood and butt plate on the #3 are not conducive to a hard recoiling rifle for sure. #1 wood, would probably work better for that.
Bob
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I had a No 3 in 30/40 and recoil was brutal, sold it years ago before I got into casting for rifles. Wish now I had kept it. Found another that was rechambered to 30/40 AI that had been restocked with a somewhat European style stock at a good price as it was somewhat abused but the bore was perfect. The different butt stock with a 1" pad and moderate cast loads makes it very pleasant to shoot. Even heavy jacketed hunting loads are bearable for the few I shoot for deer hunting.
I wish Ruger would reintroduce them at a reasonable price.....
Tom
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