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    Whew, I forgot how many nice pictures of 1911 pistols are in this thread!
    Oh great, another thread that makes me spend money.

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    It's almost pornographic. Well, not quite.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Just cuz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    I will take a Glock or other newer type than any 1911 archaic design. Back 50 years ago they were great. Not so much now.

    Cooper, and others are dead and have been before the new designs.
    You mean they won't put a hole with a bullet like they used to? Wow, didn't know a firearm became ineffective because it is older design, guess I should throw away my 51 Navy conversion that shoots one inch groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    I will take a Glock or other newer type than any 1911 archaic design. Back 50 years ago they were great. Not so much now.

    Cooper, and others are dead and have been before the new designs.
    I see we have a heretic in need of ignition assistance. (J/K)
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    I will take a Glock or other newer type than any 1911 archaic design. Back 50 years ago they were great. Not so much now.

    Cooper, and others are dead and have been before the new designs.
    ^^^^This, is illogical..</spock voice> The 1911 has and will continue to survive the tests and demands of time, because it by design is one of the best autoloading pistols ever made. To imply that the performance or the reliability of the 1911 platform has somehow degraded over time is a flawed mindset. The WWI era 1911 loaded with any modern ammo is just as reliable, just as accurate, just as DEADLY now, as it was when it was new over 100yrs ago.

    How does time degrade a chunk of iron? Answer? It doesn't!

    There are some new additions to the 1911 that enhance safety when carried with a round in the chamber.

    There are some newly designed autoloading pistols that are safer with a loaded chamber than the 1911.

    Other than that? The dbl wide magazine is the only significant improvement to the original 1911 design that evens the playing field with ANY of the new designs, and that's ALL the original 1911 EVER needed, was more ammo at one's disposal. When the SHTF? I know what I want in my hands...

    I may carry a "new design" for edc, for the simple reason that upon one occasion a backwoods podunk NC judge did NOT like the fact that I carried a 1911 cocked and locked, problem solved, potential liability loophole closed by carrying a Kahr.

    However... Should an unlucky perp come into the premises here unwelcomed and armed? He/they will likely be dispatched by the 1911 that is constantly closeby.
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    Got a .22 .30 .32 .357 .38 .40 .41 .44 .45 .480 or .500 S&W cylinder that needs throats honed? 9mm, 10mm/40S&W, 45 ACP pistol barrel that won't "plunk" your handloads? 480 Ruger or 475 Linebaugh cylinder that needs the "step" reamed to 6° 30min chamfer? Click here to send me a PM You can also find me on Facebook Click Here.

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    You gotta watch out for those short barrelled versions, they don't shoot worth a darn. Sighting in my brand new STI Lawman 4.0 at 50 feet. You have to pardon the flyers, I'm 75 and kinda shake a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu1ritter View Post
    You gotta watch out for those short barrelled versions, they don't shoot worth a darn. Sighting in my brand new STI Lawman 4.0 at 50 feet. You have to pardon the flyers, I'm 75 and kinda shake a bunch.

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    Got a .22 .30 .32 .357 .38 .40 .41 .44 .45 .480 or .500 S&W cylinder that needs throats honed? 9mm, 10mm/40S&W, 45 ACP pistol barrel that won't "plunk" your handloads? 480 Ruger or 475 Linebaugh cylinder that needs the "step" reamed to 6° 30min chamfer? Click here to send me a PM You can also find me on Facebook Click Here.

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    The ones outside the main hole!! :~) I'm starting to flinch a wee bit in me olde age.

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    Just tell'em you was shootin' at a fly! That's what I do! LOL!

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    I have never understood the appeal,of a steel Commander. The only difference between it and a full sized 1911 is 3/4 of an inch of barrel.
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    It is a totally different feel. When I first approached F. Bob Chow to have an accurized Commander built in 1972 he thought I was nutz. He took my money and built it. Bullseye accuracy, very low mounted adjustable sights, everything we now consider normal. When he finished building it he tested it, and he tested it some more. When I went to pick it up many months later I found he built one for himself.
    He liked it alot. A full sized 1911 is a pistol in your hand while a Commander is an extension of your hand. That's my feelings.

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    I bought a V-Bob early last year in preparation for retiring and moving to AL. Knew I would never spend that much money later. Circumstances have kept me from shooting it, and it is in storage with youngest son in AL now. He has strict orders to wait for me to fire the first shots, and I expect it will be everything it proved to be in dry-firing countless thousands of rounds.
    That said, my carry .45 is a Glock 30S or M&P Shield. I truly get the 1911 worship; nothing points as naturally for me. However, the Glock has more capacity at lighter weight, and the Shield is thinner and lighter. What I have carried most lately is a Sig 938 - it is great to have all these choices!
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    No actual Colt or clone "Commander Models" here on staff, but a majority of my carry favorites hew to that form pretty closely--CZ-75B, SIG P-220 and P-226, Glock 20 & 22 (the Glock 23 is close-but-no-cigar due to 1/2" shorter than full-sized grip frame), and Browning HP. The full-size grip/slightly-shortened slide format works well for a lot of folks.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    I owned a Colt 1911 Series 70 for years but let it go, I then picked up a Springfield M1911A1 and used it quite a bit if Wild Bunch Matches in Cowboy action shoots. After a while the M1911A1 sized pistol was a bit to much weight to put on my hip and gave my back and knee fits. I now have the Ruger R1911 lightweight Commander and love it. The added TITANIUM insert in the feed ramp allows the use of SWC's without any gouging of the feed ramp that you can get with the straight Aluminum Alloy frames. Mine shoots great. It handles 230 ball, Hollow Points, lead RN and the lighter 185 to 200 grain slugs with ease. Best buy that I've made lately.
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    Not to say I don't like the full sized gun, this is my 1911 built by Mike Curtis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu1ritter View Post
    It is a totally different feel. When I first approached F. Bob Chow to have an accurized Commander built in 1972 he thought I was nutz. He took my money and built it. Bullseye accuracy, very low mounted adjustable sights, everything we now consider normal. When he finished building it he tested it, and he tested it some more. When I went to pick it up many months later I found he built one for himself.
    He liked it alot. A full sized 1911 is a pistol in your hand while a Commander is an extension of your hand. That's my feelings.

    Stu
    Stu,

    I've posted here before that I had a 70 Series Combat Commander (45, electroless nickel) built up with action job to feed anything and good fixed combat sighs. I later added a blued upper in 38 Super using a factory slide with the same style sights and a well fitted barrel and bushing. In my rush to get into single shot rifle shooting, I sold that and a couple of other nearly impossible to replace now handguns. I still kick myself!

    About that same time there was a gunsmith in the area (now deceased) who would weld up the sight notch in a Commander slide and replace it with a S&W adjustable. If I ever build another custom carry gun in 45, that is what I am most likely to want on top. Unfortunately, all of my old friends who specialized in 45s seem to have gone to that great gun shop in the sky, so I don't know who would do the work I couldn't do for myself.

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