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Thread: Most efficient single shot round?

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    I am bias to 38-55.
    30WCF too.
    35 Remington
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    275 Rigby
    These are all great, all purpose cartridges in my book. Your book may read differently than mine does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey45 View Post
    I am bias to 38-55.
    30WCF too.
    35 Remington
    358 Winchester
    275 Rigby
    These are all great, all purpose cartridges in my book. Your book may read differently than mine does.
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    Well it's tough to follow Seagiant and that great pic. If by efficiency you mean powder to power ratio it is tough to beat the 30 herret. It is rimmed too which is real nice in a single shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman View Post
    Well it's tough to follow Seagiant and that great pic. If by efficiency you mean powder to power ratio it is tough to beat the 30 herret. It is rimmed too which is real nice in a single shot.
    If .30 herrett is efficient, then also is 7,62x39???

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    Efficient by what measure???
    The combination of powder vs power vs"enough gun" would bring you to
    either the 30/30 or the .308.
    Both offer plenty of versatility.
    Both are cast bullet friendly.
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    30-40 Kraig great boolit,best powder selection as it was created to use black powder.Beautiful case neck making it a re-loader's dream.My first deer at 12 dropped with open sights with the 10.00 military carbine at 200 yards. 220 grain Silver tips. I have a 357 mag Browning 92,but I know it's limitations with 200-180 j-boolits.180gr cast boolits on compressed loads so they can feed through action,and not be top feed like the j's still don't have a flat enough range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pls1911 View Post
    Efficient by what measure???
    The combination of powder vs power vs"enough gun"
    Exactly, a combination of all three. Here, I'm defining efficiency by the smallest amount of power and lead used, with the maximum potential to be "enough gun" at mid-western/east coast hunting distances (not above 150-200 yards) and be legal to hunt with. Here in Indiana, my vote still goes to either a 357 Mag or Max (my contender shoots both). There really isn't a "wrong" answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfe28 View Post
    Exactly, a combination of all three. Here, I'm defining efficiency by the smallest amount of power and lead used, with the maximum potential to be "enough gun" at mid-western/east coast hunting distances (not above 150-200 yards) and be legal to hunt with. Here in Indiana, my vote still goes to either a 357 Mag or Max (my contender shoots both). There really isn't a "wrong" answer.

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    would the 308 1.5 Barnes fit your parameters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanWinchester View Post
    There's one very distinct difference. The length of the neck. This gives the ole 30/30 a very big advantage.
    I'd say the .357 is all neck.
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    30-30 is my choice.
    Simply obtainable if caught out of ammo.
    Good enough for most things with in reasonable shooting range.

    Small 30 cal hole'd be better in smaller pot animals than a 357 hole.

    Most 357 mag guns I have seen are only good enough for about 2-3" at 100 yrds.
    While 30-30's can shoot less than 1 1/2" easily enough.

    While I may splurge out and use a grain or 2 of extra bulleye in me mouse fart loads I think its pretty efficient.

    A gun in 30-30 is invisible to people.
    Honestly!!!!

    A 30-30 it'll bounce of most things past 100yrds if you actually do/can / lucky enough to hit anything.
    Being so out-dated and anaemic it should have been discontinued by now.
    Or it'll be "yeah just good enough ".
    And for the killer don't scare farmers off with words of "magnum" or "newfangled things"

    I'm sure there are many other reasons too.

    Well it has got a rim and a nice long neck!!!!



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    Then again a 357 mag in a martini cadet 'd be nice too.
    About as much fun as you need in one without trying to leave imprints of the butt plate in your shoulder.
    Last edited by barrabruce; 07-24-2013 at 12:35 PM.

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    for any small game up to whitetail, another vote for the 30/30

    When I hunt whitetail and bigger game, I like BIG HOLES My 45's start out @ what most big game centerfire rifle shooters want their jacketed bullets to end up at, and that really make's em leak!! I'm gettin old and anymore I don't like to track em!

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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