Educate me about turret presses

[jeff423]

Skipper488: I bought a Lee universal decapper so when I get the Lee Classic Turret I can leave the decapper in my single stage press and decap the cases before I tumble clean them. I have problems with primers not wanting to seat all the way if I don't clean the primer pockets first.

I know just what you mean. I decap my cases first and clean the primer pocket before reloading as well. I've always wondered how people deal with this with a progressive...assuming they're dumping their previously shot brass into the progressive before decapping and processing it?

All of the people that I know personally (3 including me) that load on progressives don't clean the primer pockets. I've never had an issue.
My guess is that most people that reload for pistol on a progressive don't clean the primer pockets.

Jeff

[mike in co]

All of the people that I know personally (3 including me) that load on progressives don't clean the primer pockets. I've never had an issue.
My guess is that most people that reload for pistol on a progressive don't clean the primer pockets.

Jeff

for normal every day stuff i use the press in full progressive...no stopping for primer pocket cleaning.

for some of my match ammo i do process brass(size deprime, bell, polish clean primer pockets, maybe hand prime) and then load( maybe prime, powder drop, seat crimp)

so i do both.....less and less pistol primer pocket cleaning....


mike in co

[Ben]

I really like my Lee Classic Turret.

I have 6 Die Heads, I made myself a rack to organize them with.

You can change calibers in about 30 seconds now.

You'd like it

[Crash_Corrigan]

I load for: 380 ACP, .30 Carbine, 327 Fed Mag, 9 MM, .38/357 Mag, .40 S&W, .41 Rem Mag, .44 Special, .45 ACP and 45 Colt in pistol calibres.

In rifle we go with .223 Remington, 6.5 x 55 MM Swedish, 30-06 (Garand), .303 British, 8 x 57 MM and in BCPR a 50-90 Sharps.

The shotguns and .22 lr's I buy store bought ammo for.

I load the .45 ACP's and 9 MM's on a Dillon 550 RL and a Dillon Square Deal Press respectfully as I load a lot of them and I leave them alone as they work fine and do not need any more tinkering nor adjusting nor fixing.

Pretty much for everything else I use the Lee Cast Turret Classic Press. The turret heads are cheap enuf that I have one availble for all my dies and my dies keep well and never require adjusting after I get the ammo I want set up.

I usually decap with a Lee Challenger Press while watching TV and then clean the brass in a wet tumbler. Again watching TV I prime the cases by hand and then proceed to the reloading part of it.

The radio goes on and with the auto advance set up on the Lee Turret press I can get some good production on making good ammo for my guns. I would be faster on the Dillon 550RL but the set up time is a PITA and the amounts of ammo made are low enuf that I do not mind spending the time with the Lee.

I can change calibers pretty fast and load as much or as little as I want the pre loaded turret rings allow me to leave the settings alone between sessions. I do not spend much time turning reloading dies.

[JesterGrin_1]

My mess lol.


And I have to agree I really like my Lee Classic Cast Turret Press it is all I use from .38Sp to 45-70.


I would also have to say that Pats Rock Doc is nice to have as well. Makes things so much easier and saves bench space.

[Kevin Rohrer]

Ever seen a forest of Hollywood turrets?

[9.3X62AL]

Ponsness-Warren Metal-Matic P-200. Shell holder pivots under stationary die turret. I like mine.

[Skipper488]

Jester I like the paint job on the classic cast.

[Kevin Rohrer]

9.3,

Could you explain how the P200 and its larger brother work? Their web site doesn't adequately explain. Do you manually advance the shellholder like the Dillon 550B?

[JesterGrin_1]

Jester I like the paint job on the classic cast.

Skipper it is the same Color as Ben's in Post 23 of this thread. I just do not know how to work a camera correctly lol.

[liljohnnie]

Stick with your Coax Jeff, with the universal shell holder and slip-in,slip-out die changes it is just as fast or faster than a turret. IMO

[mike in co]

Stick with your Coax Jeff, with the universal shell holder and slip-in,slip-out die changes it is just as fast or faster than a turret. IMO

another non-believer....

"my single stage press is faster than...(pick your name )"

[liljohnnie]

another non-believer....

"my single stage press is faster than...(pick your name )"

What is it i don't believe in? There is no regular single stage that is faster than a turret but we're not talking about a rockchucker now are we,no we're talking about a Forster Coax press.Google it.

[mike in co]

What is it i don't believe in? There is no regular single stage that is faster than a turret but we're not talking about a rockchucker now are we,no we're talking about a Forster Coax press.Google it.

its is still a single stage press and the required motions still exceed that of a turret for xxx rds of ammo.....

so it just aint gonna be faster that the turret....is it faster that other singles...maybe....


mike in co

[jeff423]

Liljohnie,

Thanks for your reply. That's what I've always thought. I just thought I might be missing something.

Mike,

How is it possible that a turret will have fewer motions than a single stage? You still have one handle pull per operation, and you still have to index the turret for each step.
I suppose that I have to put the round in the shell holder and then move it to the loading block for each step. Whereas you have to put the round in the shell holder and then index the turret for each step. So it seems like the same number of steps.
I'm not claiming that single stage with quick change dies is faster, I just don't think that it is much - if any - slower.

Jeff

[JesterGrin_1]

Jeff it depends on the turret Press. Most you do have to move the Turret to the next die station. The Lee Classic Cast Turret Press will automatically move to the next station so you do not have to move the turret. Plus you can use the LCCTP in single stage mode. And then you have to move the turret by hand to the next station. But you do not have to remove and install each die one at a time like a true single stage press.

And yes even with a Turret press of any type it takes a pull of the handle to do one operation. As you only have one case in it at a time.

Now back to Turret Presses lol.

[Charlie Two Tracks]

That's why there is more than one channel on a TV set. Not everyone like the same thing.

[unclebill]

That's why there is more than one channel on a TV set. Not everyone like the same thing.

i like that

[mike in co]

Liljohnie,

Thanks for your reply. That's what I've always thought. I just thought I might be missing something.

Mike,

How is it possible that a turret will have fewer motions than a single stage? You still have one handle pull per operation, and you still have to index the turret for each step.
I suppose that I have to put the round in the shell holder and then move it to the loading block for each step. Whereas you have to put the round in the shell holder and then index the turret for each step. So it seems like the same number of steps.
I'm not claiming that single stage with quick change dies is faster, I just don't think that it is much - if any - slower.

Jeff

no its not the same number...you put the case in once..take out a loaded round...turned the tuuret three or four time depending on the process.........same number of handle pulls both ways.
so without handle pulls one in , one out, four rotations...six moves per rd.
with the single/bonanza what ever...
one in and one out for each die...x 4 dies.....8 moves vs six......25% less movement in the turret....if you coutn handle pulls the % goes down...but always less in the turret.

mike in co

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[jeff423]

Mike,

I'm sure your numbers are right. Do you think it makes any practical difference in speed?