OlDeuce you dog!
Ya just had ta show off that roller huh. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS. I MEAN IT.
I NOW HAVE A ROLLER SHIPPING OUT TOMORROW. I can't believe they had one that had not been sold.
MOA.....Tehehe ....Isn't that cool I was over the moon when I saw the prices I couldn't believe what I was reading!!
Before this ......LOL I was on Gunbrokers and was shopping the rolling blocks !! and those guys !!!! wow they were flipping rolling blocks !!
I was really Pleased with Dave the salesperson that helped me !!!! Really Nice!! Ol' Happy Dog Deuce
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I have a Swede 12.17X44 but It looks as tho some one run a 50-70 reamer into it , so I cut down a 50-90 to fit the chamber , got a 400 gr. 500 S&W bullet mold an sized & lubed it to .503, the barrel slugged at .501 ,loaded 62grs. of 2f Goex powder ,I then fired it an it worked so I cut down about 50 cartridges an loaded them an went to the range ,I fired 7 Shots after the fifth shot the group open up , so i let cool down shot 5 2" let it cool again fired 5 more 2" group so after that I only shot 5 Shots at a time , when winter came along I stripped the stock an refinished an put a Beechs front sight an veneer tang sight on it. It is a AXTELL TANG SIGHT
Now it is for sale
They aren't sold out. They have more, and get more almost every month. I looked this morning at "new arrivals" there, and there were many still available. Only issue I have is I'm not fond of the set screws used to hold the pins in, and the large bat wing spur on the breech blocks. They are great actions, but those items make them less desirable appearance wise for a rework to sporter configuration.
I check Simpson's fairly regularly and would like one in 12.7 X 44R but doggone it, someone must be sitting at their computer watching Simpson's waiting for a shipment to be posted. Every time I see a 12.7 on their site that is good it's already sold. As an aside they have been good folks to deal with.
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Yep, if it is something you think you might like you better be quick on the phone. Really nice ones or unique ones are gone pretty much as soon as they are posted. They had a 28ga roller last week. It was a Husky model missing the firing pin. I spent a little time banging around the net to see if I could buy a firing pin or if the Rem brand would fit. Couldn't really find anything so said what the heck, for $195 I'll buy it anyway. Of course in the few minutes it took me to decide that, it as GONE.
thats a neat case!!! someday(i wish) i would like to take a 30-40 krag case necked up and tapered to .410"(41 rem mag). my boolits will be 270-320gr fn gc and they will be going 1400-1500fps. i would like it to be a high wall(i wish again). but i haven't the time or funds to do it.
EMC, for a second there I thought that was my rifle!!!! Then I made out the first number as a "1".
Rusty, your experience echo's mine. I went to check their site a few minutes ago and at the moment it won't come up on my 'puter. Probably something there right now I want that will be gone.
"In general, the art of government is to take as much money as possible from one class of citizens and give it to another class of citizens" Voltaire'
The common virtue of capitalism is the sharing of equal opportunity. The common vice of socialism is the equal sharing of misery
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Wait. WHAT?!?! You guys are running 8 X 58RD and 12x44's??? How??? Where do you get the brass...???
Just to make sure I am understanding you fellas correctly - are we talking about rifles like these?
https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/66
Any instruction is sincerely appreciated. (Yes I'd much rather shoot .30-30 tapered like Ol' Deuce!!! But pikers like me have to shoot what's available for the most part!)
Again, fairly large numbers of these rolling blocks came into Canada as surplus years ago, and they are still being brought in and are available through a large Canadian surplus distributor called "Tradex". They still have lots of these rolling blocks in 8x58R's and 12.7x44R's available for sale, so for any of my Canadian brothers who haven't bought one yet you can go have a look at their website and tempt yourself! (They also have lots of Husqvarna M96 bolt action sporters left in 9.3x57mm too.)
https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/66
I may have passed my "Best Before" date, but I haven't reached my "Expiry" date!
Yep, that's what I'm shootin anyway. Lots of info on this site and others about the 8x58Rd and the 12.7X44R. Others have way more experience than I do and you should do a search for those threads.
Although I guess it can be found, ammo is not readily available and reloading dies are expensive. For my 8mm I use PPU 8x56R brass and neck size and seat boolits with 8mm lebel dies. For the 12.7 I use starline 50/70 brass, very lightly modified to fit my chamber and use Lee 515 (sized .510) boolits and 50/70 reloading dies. Not endorsing either method, just what I use, YMMV.
Most of the 12.7x44R's will chamber .50-70 Govt brass (and a lot of them up here in Canada had a .50-70 Govt reamer run into the chamber to ensure that that brass will fit). Although 8x58R brass is available it is expensive. It can be reformed from 8x56R Hungarian or .45-70 although they come up a bit short on length after formed. They work just fine as "shooter" brass. I went one step further and bought a Kal Max Case Stretcher from Red River Rick so that I can lengthen .45-70 cases to .45-90 length for reforming to full length .40-82 WCF and 8x58R Danish Krag.
I may have passed my "Best Before" date, but I haven't reached my "Expiry" date!
Sorry for the continuing dumb questions, fellas - but would that .30-30 wildcat in the OP be stoked with black powder...? I can see that gun being remarkably cheap and fun to shoot once it's put together...
Mine showed up this morning at 9:00 sharp !!! I'm a happy camper!!!!! this Rolling block shows no wear on the moving parts. the hammer face is Perfect!
all the screw heads are perfect, and No Pitting on the frame ........She is going to be a Great Project!! The Bull Barrel will be in my hands on Wednesday !
WoW I still have a month to wait before the Chamber Ream is finished!!! I'm Pumped!!! Oh ,,,,,,,The fun part to come .....Ready for this ......My 1867 Roller
is going to be a Take down!!!! Hmmm........
Happy Ol Deuce
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |