Not hard to understand with what they did with the IMR powders.Originally Posted by Hardcast416taylor
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Not hard to understand with what they did with the IMR powders.
The biggest disappointment to me is the new or reformulated replacement powder will not have the abundant data developed over the past 40+ years. I will be anxiously be awaiting to see the answer Outpost75 gets. Hopefully it is simply an internet rumor that got twisted some where along the way.
I thought all Hogdgon/Winchester ball powders were made at the St. Marks Powder Plant (Florida) owned by General Dynamics.
Today I was told by the Gunstop Reloading folks that W231/HP38 was being phased out and I needed to consider Titegroup or CFE Pistol. I am headed up to Minneapolis in a few days and was hoping to find a couple of the powders I need? Hope the are wrong. Flyer
This may be the original post that started this .... http://ingunowners.com/forums/ammuni...wder-read.html
Thank you, Outpost 75. The straight story from first-hand sourcing would be great to know.
As a practical matter, for the last 4-5 years WW-231 and HP-38 might as well have been phased out--it has been that long since I last saw any for sale, in late 2010 I bought a 4# caddy at the range store at Angeles Shooting Ranges. I've reduced all shooting drastically for the past few years, so I still have some of that 4# left.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
I know I'm bragging, but I just ordered 8 lbs of HP38 from Powder Valley. It was only in stock for a short time.
I missed it! arrg
RE:
Win 231/HP38 Being Phased Out
ARRRRRGGGH!
Carry on.
The powder has not been discontinued nor have we been told that I going to be discontinued.
Mike Van Dyke
Customer Service Representative
Hodgdon Powder Company
6430 Vista Drive
Shawnee, KS 66218
913-362-9455 Ext. 109
From: Outpost75
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:32 PM
To: Help Account
Subject: W231 / HP38 being phased out? Please tell me it isn't true....
Can you authenticate this story? If this is another Internet hoax I would like to assist with rumor control.
It seems to be all over the net, but there seems to be no link to a source within the company.
Thanks.
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The ENEMY is listening.
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Keep it to yourself.
I figured this was bunk. It would make no sense when either one has for years been economical in price if they have such a high overhead.
Disclaimer: Reloading and casting I only look at cents/round and ignore any other costs
Should have also asked them if they are actually making it because it's nonexistent at the moment
Production capacity is finite. They are producing more powder than they ever have.
Between the need for powder used in ammunition production and canister sales the demand is insatiable.
Hoarding and panic buying in addition to huge government purchases of ammunition has dried up the pipeline.
The ENEMY is listening.
HE wants to know what YOU know.
Keep it to yourself.
Many thanks, Outpost 75.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
I had over 20 years experience in the firearms industry, on the engineering and manufacturing side of the house, not as a salesman or bean counter. I know how it works.
The ENEMY is listening.
HE wants to know what YOU know.
Keep it to yourself.
Thank you for your efforts.
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Today's purchase: 8lbs of 231 and 8lbs of HP38. Had thought to get some Zip but did not as the two old standby's above will last me quite awhile...
GC45
I bought an 8 pound caddy of 231 this week.
The ENEMY is listening.
HE wants to know what YOU know.
Keep it to yourself.
Darn. I bought 200lbs for my retirement fund. I was going to sell it for $50/lb and double my money when it was off the shelves
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I just bought 4 lbs. of HP-38 this weekend at the Davenport, IA gunshow and the seller had another 6 one pounders and an 8 pound container plus one and four ponders of Unique. All for around $21.00 each per pound. Should of bought more but I still have 3 pounds of 231.
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