Huh?

[Barry54]

I’m confused aren’t we all casters, reloaders and shooters? Why the trash talk about those who powder coat? I’m of the mind if you like it and it works for you great . If you don’t like it and you like lubed bullets great . There’s room for all of us here . I don’t PP and don’t care anything about it, but I’m not gonna talk trash and run down those that do . Far as I’m concerned that’s narrow minded.

Trash talk? I thought the reference to fingernail polish was hilarious! One of the funniest things I’ve read on this site all year! I’m glad this thread got revived just because of it. And it’s sparked my interest in paper patching now that I’ve accumulated a stash of soft lead that could be used for hunting.

I don’t see it as trash talk. Just friendly banter. The old Ford vs Chevrolet thing...
Plus it’s an inside joke that only casters will understand.

[Lead pot]

I hope that's a cartridge you're holding there.

Yup it is.
It's a .44-100 Rem. but that is not powder coating on the paper, it's ink

[pbcaster45]

I've been trying my hand at paper patching... still have lots of work to do. I'm really out of practice with my Sharps which doesn't help either.

Bullet: Montana Precision Swaging 400 gr. RNPP (Microchamber Interleaving Paper .0025 White/Sized .460/Liquid Alox)
Powder: IMR-4198 27.0 grs. (0.001 Onionskin Disk/Kapok Filler ½ gr.)
Primer: CCI-BR2
Case: Federal
OAL: 2.595
Average Velocity: 1311 fps
Extreme Spread: 43 fps
Standard Deviation: 16 fps
Comments: Cases partially sized with Lyman Neck Die, expanded with Buffalo Arms .458-.462 Expander, and belled with Hornady New Dimension Expander. About 0.075 inch of paper patch exposed beyond case mouth. Seated rounds taper crimped in Hornady New Dimension Seater Die (minus seater plug)

Bullet: Buffalo Arms 500 gr. RNPP (Buffalo Arms Onionskin 0.0015/Sized .458/Lee Sizing Lube)
Powder: IMR-4198 25.0 grs (0.001 Onionskin Disk/Kapok Filler ½ gr.)
Primer: CCI-BR2
Case: Federal
OAL: 2.738
Average Velocity: 1177 fps
Extreme Spread: 38 fps
Standard Deviation: 13 fps
Comments: Full length resized in RCBS Sizer Die. Expanded with Buffalo Arms .458-.462 Expander and belled with Hornady New Dimension Expander. Taper crimped in Hornady Seater Die.

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I didn't really like the smell from the Lee Liquid Alox. Lee Sizing Lube works well, and I like the color.

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I like to use a thin onionskin paper wad over the powder charge when using any kind of filler.

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[barrabruce]

Finally come good.
Made a pp mold yesterday with a D reamer.
Wanted about a 130 grain 301" diameter.
Casts with soft lead 0.298" and 132 grain.
So I have to run a bastard file over it to bring the core up to 0.301"
I’ve dry patche’d some rounds and the paper does not want to move.
I made it with a scraper groove on the nose and a little wee pip of a hollow point.
How they fly?
I may not know for a bit but they are looking good to me.
Hoping the nose catches the air flow and stabilises it a bit and the pip does something or other too.
A fuzzy photo for proof.
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I may have finally got nearly to another level .

Note the mold turned out just usable, but learnt a few more things along the way.
Cheers.
Thankyou everyone who has put up with me for so long.

[Nobade]

Good work. Making things and especially tools yourself is a very satisfying part of this game. Plus it's a real bonus if they fly accurately!

[nanuk]

I enjoy reading about solutions to problems

one can never have too much knowledge

[Gobeyond]

Accurate does good work. I've got several of them now, and they are all nice to cast with. (Once I figured out what they liked)

Squirrels! Man those things are destructive. Hate'm.

They taste good. I’d say PP is more accurate for me, better trajectory, and more powerful. I need paint on my house not on my bullets.

[303Guy]

303Guy, have you tried the aperture near your eye?

just to prove it to yourself, take a piece of dark hard paper or thin cardboard/cereal box stuff

push a small hole through it in the middle, to block all other light. I use a large push pin, and round it in the hole so the sides are smooth

then put that up to your eye (remove glasses even... not needed) and you'll see it really works.

bullseye pistol shooters have a piece that mounts on glasses and swings down into vision

old science at work

Goodness! Time flies. I'm not sure why I didn't see your post but yes, I did try that. I got a pair of pin hole reading 'glasses' but the holes were too big so then I taped over them and pricked smaller holes. I'm trying to remember why I didn't pursue that. I actually have a Toz with open sights that I can still see with, even now (I shouldered is a few days ago). I think it was a case of preferring the aperture and front tube arrangement.



That's with this front sight at 100m


I was actually aiming at that corner as it was the only part of the target I could see with the sun being at 90 degrees on the right. If I had waited ten minutes I would have been able to see the bull again. But still, a three shot sub-MOA group with a tube sight aint bad.

[LAKEMASTER]

I have a lot of paper patched bullets ready to load up for my 30-06 and 303 Britt.

I decided to take the " easy route " my patches are square. I did a few things to prevent the paper from sticking to the bullet. All my guns use magazines so I have to adjust for that as well

I'm also only interested in hunting velocities. 180+ grain bullets

My goal is hunting accuracy at hunting velocities

[JosieGun]

I paper patch black powder for bore riders and white powder for groove runners, for .45-70, .44 Mag, and now .45 Colt. I also PC as well. It's all good as long as it's interesting fun. Right?

[Dframe]

I don't patch rifle calibers but have had a lot of fun with 45 Colt boolits in my 1911 SAA. Yes I have the Colt letter informing me it was manufactured in 1911. I have had some fun with people when I tell them my SAA is a 1911

[Good Cheer]

I've been patching for a few years. Took a year or so to get the technique right. As I learn more and more about patching I grew more interested. Then again I'm a history buff in heart. New technology that Powder coating is doesn't interest me --yet.
What I have to patch here all are pre 94 levers. 30-30_32 special_32-40_25-35. So these days, I'm waiting for the Spring thaw so I can go to my gun club to better my shooting skills with old school equipment.

Boy howdy I'd love to read about patching a 25-35.

[Dframe]

I probably break every rule there is with my paper patched 45 Colt loads but they shoot better than I am able and they're great fun. My old Colt seems to like them, I do get some strange looks from from folks at the range

[GONRA]

GOODCHEER sez - "Seeing as I'm a proponent of having real lube grooves inside the case neck...."

GONRA is too - Big Tyme! !!