I recently picked up some 30-30 brass and was resizing them when I noticed a couple that looked a little odd.
The base had a raised ring at the outside edge and a raised ring where the primer is seated.
Any ideas of the history of the pictured brass?
There is no headstamp to be found...
Is this some really old brass or maybe something from Indochinastan?
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I’ve never seen 30-30 brass like that at all!
I’ve seen 8 mm Lebel with the groove ring on the base(Balle D?) but that is totally different from those 30-30 brass pictured.
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Most likely it was normal brass modified for some unknown reason.
Here is a pic of what the 8mm Lebel looked like.
https://www.zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=17/10/vebq.jpg
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If I had noticed it, I probably wouldn't have resized it.
Just a guess but I'm thinking it's possibly close to a century old.
If I were a betting man, I'd say some industrious lever gun operator wanted to run pointedie bullets through his rifle and modified the cases in the hopes of preventing a magazine chain fire.
To get an idea of the period of manufacture, take a peek down the case and see if it is solid-head, or roll-head.
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Yep! Hate to agree with a Texican Rotorhead, but look inside to see if it's a balloon head or roll-head case.
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Looks solid, can't really tell a difference between the regular cases
That’s so you can stick an O- ring in there to take up the excess headspace on great grandaddy’s 94 Winchester…….
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Sez the corn-fed Jayhawker...Originally Posted by K43
Rights, and Privileges, are not synonymous. We have the Right to Bear Arms. As soon as the Government mandates firearm registration, and permiting, then that Right becomes a Privilege, and may be taken away at our Master's discretion.
The 30-30 was one of the early smokeless case designs and was never produced in ballon head case.
2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
Meaning no disrespect, but I have a handful of UMC-headstamped 30WCF cases that are decidedly not solid head. If the site would stop being persnickety and let me upload pics, I could post some boresight photos for reference.
Rights, and Privileges, are not synonymous. We have the Right to Bear Arms. As soon as the Government mandates firearm registration, and permiting, then that Right becomes a Privilege, and may be taken away at our Master's discretion.
Ha! You could email your pics to someone who knows what he's doing and he might post them up for you.
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That would not be me K43, I am decidedly computer picture challenged. james
Years ago, George Nonte wrote about using a lathe to remove head stamps from cartridge cases.
Ballon head or semi-ballon head? There is a difference. Good visuals and descriptions here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...?pli=1&tab=t.0
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2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
I have seen that same cut on 308 and 30-06 military ammo used for discreet operations where it cant be reliably identified
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