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For those who commented on my benches clutter, Today was spent with me and a friend getting it cleaned off. Next is plane the top flat and true. Looks like were going to have to take about 1/8"-3/16"off to clean it up smooth. The top is 2x4s on edge with 2x8s meshed in to form the leg sockets. 2x4s are a mix of Oak and Douglas fir, 2x8s are Douglas fir. It is a very solid sturdy top. glued doweled every 10" with 3/4" dowels and 5/16" locking dowels on ends. Legs are 2x8s 3laminated with a joint left for the cross brace/shelf mount. Vises are a 5" wilton with aluminum jaws and pipe jaws the other is a Parrot vise that swivels in several directions. I also have the additions tube mount adapter to allow more adjustment