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Thread: 311291 vs. 311041

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    311291 vs. 311041

    I am loading for 30-06 and I want opinions on which of these two you would use. I am well aware of the 311299 but I do not have one so it is between the two listed.

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    My vote is for the 311041.
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    Both are excellent boolits in the 30-06. I use the 311291 primarily for target shooting, and the 311041 is probably better suited for hunting due to its flat nose design.

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    I'd say it's a personal choice. The rifle might like one or the other better, or you might prefer one or the other for some reason, like a flat point for hunting. Honestly, I'd want to get or try both.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterAZ View Post
    Both are excellent boolits in the 30-06. I use the 311291 primarily for target shooting, and the 311041 is probably better suited for hunting due to its flat nose design.
    I have both and what I've been using them for in most of my .30 cal is as ShooterAZ states. I also have Lee 6 holers from GBs in the same designs that drop .314 - .316 bullets for my .31 cals.
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    Actually the 311041 I mentioned that I have is a Lee 6 hole 311-41. I always thought they were the same but apparently not.

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    My 311041 is the NOE clone in a brass 2 cavity mold. Once up to temperature it casts a perfect bullet every time. I'm not familiar with the LEE 311-41 design. I also use the 311041 a lot in the 30-30 Win. If my memory serves me correctly, it was originally designed for the 30-30.

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    I don't see any significant performance difference between them. I just happen to have cut my casting teeth on the 311291 so I tend to use more of them. I use home grown gas checks and polycoat them. They shoot very well in all of my .30-06 rifles and do a decent job in the .300 BLK too. They also work well in my .30-30, although that particular rifle prefers the Louverin design bullets.

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    311041 has been very accurate for me in 30-06.
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    311291 is the first mold that I bought.
    A single cavity that I still have.
    It shoots well in any 30-caliber cartridge that will handle it.
    I have no experience with the 311041 so I can`t compare them.

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    I've used 311291 in 30/30, and 311041 in .308 Win. and .30/06 (2-groove 03A3), all with good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by higgins View Post
    I've used 311291 in 30/30, and 311041 in .308 Win. and .30/06 (2-groove 03A3), all with good results.
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    In the 30-06, the 291 grouped better, albeit not significantly, at hunting velocities cerca 2100 fps. I got groups of roughly 2" with it and ~2 1/2 with the 311-041. I used the the 041 to hunt with but that old 03-a3 conversion is not a lucky gun--it scares game away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterAZ View Post
    Both are excellent boolits in the 30-06. I use the 311291 primarily for target shooting, and the 311041 is probably better suited for hunting due to its flat nose design.
    what powder are you using for the 30-06?

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    The nose is the only difference between them. If you hunt use the 41.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Budget Shooter View Post
    311041 has been very accurate for me in 30-06.
    what powder are you using for the 30-06?

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    For 30-06, I prefer something heavier than either design. They were both designed for 30-30 and that is where they excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintinglen View Post
    In the 30-06, the 291 grouped better, albeit not significantly, at hunting velocities cerca 2100 fps. I got groups of roughly 2" with it and ~2 1/2 with the 311-041. I used the the 041 to hunt with but that old 03-a3 conversion is not a lucky gun--it scares game away.
    what powder are you using for the 30-06?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Gianni View Post
    The nose is the only difference between them. If you hunt use the 41.
    The 311291 is a bore rider design and if you get one with the correct sized nose can be extremely accurate. Looking at the pictures it seems like the 311041 has a standard taper. Not sure what difference this makes in other rifles but in my 30-30 the 311291 is extremely accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy243 View Post
    what powder are you using for the 30-06?
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    Typing “30-06 311291” into your browser search will bring up a dearth of links, for that bullet or any other you desire.
    More "This is what happened when I,,,,," and less "What would happen if I,,,,"

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