Normally at my PA farm I have several shooting ranges. When in Florida all winter as a "snow duck" I go to a small range that my friend owns that borders the Everglades. Plenty of shooters arrive from Miami, FL. Was done shooting and talking to my friend when we observed a young shooter banging away. He was holding the autoloader 9mm sideways and would push the pistol forward so as to maybe add a bit more velocity to the bullet traveling down range. The owner of the range and I continued to observe this shooter. I was laughing at this strange shooting stance. The range owner explained that those shooters, shoot like that because that is the way the pistol comes in the box!!! Ahhhhh!!! Perfectly logical !!!! About this time our unusual shooter ran out of 9mm ammo. He walked over to us and asked if anyone had an extra box of 9mm for sale. He said his new "9" was not hitting very well. Shots were all over the target. I told him that I had an extra box that I would sell to him. He paid me and went back to thumbing ammo into a magazine. I walked over to him and asked how he acquired his unusual shooting stance. He said he watched TV and that's how it's done. I kinda felt sorry for this shooter and offered to help him improve his shooting. I demonstrated a two hand hold on the pistol holding it vertically instead of sideways. With a pen and paper I drew a proper sight picture showing him where to hold on the target. His shooting greatly improved. This kid was so happy with his new pistol. He thanked me and continued with his new shooting form!!!!! Made this ole' guy happy to see a young new shooter enjoying his new hobby.