Should I just get a four cavity Lyman 429421, or is there a better version available today?
I'm going to powder coat...should I consider something else?
99% of what I shoot is going to be the Skeeter .44 Spl load.
Should I just get a four cavity Lyman 429421, or is there a better version available today?
I'm going to powder coat...should I consider something else?
99% of what I shoot is going to be the Skeeter .44 Spl load.
Try NOE, Arsenal or Accurate they make better moulds to me than Lyman.
For the price of the Lyman, i would go to Accurate.
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If you can find an older used Lyman mold, that would be my choice.
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I'm really happy with my ARSENAL 432-264 SWC - H&G 503
http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?ro...product_id=138
Last edited by derek45; 01-11-2023 at 08:47 AM.
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I am a fan of Accurate and NOE molds but with that said, my 2 cavity Lyman 429421 I bought in 1974 has made a zillion boolits and proved accurate since day 1. I don't know if there is a difference between the older ones and the recent production molds. If I could only have 1 44 mold, that would be the one, IF, I found one in good shape.
Last edited by murf205; 01-11-2023 at 12:31 PM.
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I went and looked at their site after your post. I like their prices and their selection. I'm mulling the 432-264 SWC vs their 429421 SWC 255 Gr. Keith, maybe 50/50 plain and GC, probably brass.
It looks like their 429421 isn't quite 100% a Keith, as the driving bands aren't equal, but I'm not sure that matters that much to me.
Keith never specified equal length driving bands. That's a myth that just won't die.
His design was revolutionary because of the full DIAMETER front band.
Bullet designs of Elmer's era had reduced diameter north of the crimp, to provide clearance for black powder fouling.
Keith saw an opportunity for better accuracy in cleaner chambers, using a full diameter driving band above the crimp to be a wedge fit in the tapered throat, or ball seat.
This greatly reduces unsupported bullet travel to the chamber throat in the cylinder, reducing bullet tip.
I've cast and shot hundreds of bullets from my 30+ year old two cavity Lyman 429421. Great bullets!
Don't remember what I paid for it though. Are the new ones not as good anymore?
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Keep in mind that Keith's classic load of 22 gr 2400 is good up through bullets of 255 gr. Most Lyman 429421s run 245 - 255 gr and are quite safe generating SAAMI MAP level psi's. The heavier so called "Keith bullets" produce higher psi with that classic load.
My standard Magnum load is the "Keith load" of 22 gr 2400 with the Lyman 429421 or the RCBS 44-250-KT which both run 250 - 255 with the alloys I use. Have shot thousands of them over the years.
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Right now my current favorites are a couple of Arsenal molds. I'm thinking either a:
* 429421 SWC 255 Gr. KEITH - http://arsenalmolds.com/44-Keith-Bullet
* 432-264 SWC - H&G 503 Clone - http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?ro...product_id=138
Probably four cavity in brass, may be 1/2 and 1/2 plain and GC base.
Absolutely nothing wrong w/ that combination:Should I just get a four cavity Lyman 429421, or is there a better version available today?
I'm going to powder coat...should I consider something else?
See https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=20
There are at least three different versions of the Keith bullet that Lyman has produced over the years. The 429-421 is certainly a viable choice for your 44 mag. and should produce many excellent bullets for you. My own 429-421 has been going since 1972 and although I own a multitude of different molds now, I do NOT regret buying and shooting it.
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