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Thread: Making that Bullet Collator

  1. #5721
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    Just some questions about various parts form the parts generator...
    1. The parts list says I need spring "adapter 8 flush"... I don't see it even on github.
    2. Am I correct in thinking that spring adapter 13 has something to do with using the led/optical sensor? Do I need 2 of the led knobs?
    3. Do I need to print up 1 set of the clutch assembly for each plate?
    4. What size bolts are used for assembling the ramp, flipper, bullet plate adjustment and clutch with handle?
    5. I think I need to order the following springs... 15mm, 12mm and 10mm. I want to do 9mm brass and bullets, 38/357brass and bullets, 45acp brass and bullets, 223 brass and bullets, 6.5 Grendel brass only and 6.5 Creedmoor brass brass only. From my research I think the least expensive way is to order off of AliExpress. I have more time then money so I can wait for them to get here... LOL
    Thank you guys so very much for putting up with me and my dumb questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Just some questions about various parts form the parts generator...
    1. The parts list says I need spring "adapter 8 flush"... I don't see it even on github.
    2. Am I correct in thinking that spring adapter 13 has something to do with using the led/optical sensor? Do I need 2 of the led knobs?
    3. Do I need to print up 1 set of the clutch assembly for each plate?
    4. What size bolts are used for assembling the ramp, flipper, bullet plate adjustment and clutch with handle?
    5. I think I need to order the following springs... 15mm, 12mm and 10mm. I want to do 9mm brass and bullets, 38/357brass and bullets, 45acp brass and bullets, 223 brass and bullets, 6.5 Grendel brass only and 6.5 Creedmoor brass brass only. From my research I think the least expensive way is to order off of AliExpress. I have more time then money so I can wait for them to get here... LOL
    Thank you guys so very much for putting up with me and my dumb questions.
    1. I didn't use the part manager, but maybe it's referring to the plug?

    2.spring adapters allow the springs to mount into the drop tubes...

    3.yes

    4. It's mentioned in this thread somewhere. I used a mix of 3mm, 4mm, and #2x1/4 panheads. I honestly can't remember what was where. If it fit, it was it.

    5.i like the AliExpress ones, but they are smaller in dia than advertised. Lots of spring tube for the price though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUICEMAN View Post
    1. I didn't use the part manager, but maybe it's referring to the plug?

    2.spring adapters allow the springs to mount into the drop tubes...

    3.yes

    4. It's mentioned in this thread somewhere. I used a mix of 3mm, 4mm, and #2x1/4 panheads. I honestly can't remember what was where. If it fit, it was it.

    5.i like the AliExpress ones, but they are smaller in dia than advertised. Lots of spring tube for the price though.

    Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk
    Thanks for replying. nice to have some help sometimes

    "1. The parts list says I need spring "adapter 8 flush"... I don't see it even on github."
    I changed the naming convention on those. The flush ones are now just the standard. Offset ones have offset in the name.

    8mm standard (used to be called flush)
    https://github.com/BF556/Feeder/blob..._Adapter_8.stl

    8mm offset
    https://github.com/BF556/Feeder/blob...r_8_Offset.stl

    Offset adapters are better at feeding small short bullets reliably.

  4. #5724
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    Tyler
    Which height clutch do I need for the following plates
    small pistol bullet and case
    small rifle bulet and case
    large pistol bullet and case
    large rifle case only
    Thank you all for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Tyler
    Which height clutch do I need for the following plates
    small pistol bullet and case
    small rifle bulet and case
    large pistol bullet and case
    large rifle case only
    Thank you all for the help!
    There is only one size.

  6. #5726
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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    There is only one size.
    Oh, so the 8mm and 10mm are not heights but shaft size? Cool!
    Easy peasy...lol
    Thanks

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    Wanted a nice 300mm base for cases and my only printer that isn't direct drive happens to be my cr10v2 which is the only large enough one for the 300mm base. I used petg and about 2 days and some change in the extruder ground through and it was air printing. I was like NOOOO! Ended up measuring it and finding the layer in the gcode to start there (and removed the G28 to home - to not knock it off the build plate). was able to get it pick up where it left off but I ended up with a nice line o' reminder. Do have to say the larger base is amazing for cases! So far I've just tested it with 40 but it rocks! I also REALLY love the the smaller electronics box. Although putting things in there in a certain order is key compared to the older large boxes. But the form factor looks better! Thanks Tyler! I now have a spare regular base. That and the adjusting angle is super handy! All mine before I'd wedge something in there so they didn't slip. This project has gotten so much better with age! Now, where are the primers!? :P

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    Does anyone know if you can extend the LED sensor wire if needed? I know that your not supposed to extend the wires on a thermistor... just want be sure it's ok and won't affect the unit.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Does anyone know if you can extend the LED sensor wire if needed? I know that your not supposed to extend the wires on a thermistor... just want be sure it's ok and won't affect the unit.
    Thanks
    Yep. I extended mine about 12 inches and it worked fine.
    Respectfully,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Myers View Post
    Yep. I extended mine about 12 inches and it worked fine.
    Cool. THANKS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djinnpb View Post
    Wanted a nice 300mm base for cases and my only printer that isn't direct drive happens to be my cr10v2 which is the only large enough one for the 300mm base. I used petg and about 2 days and some change in the extruder ground through and it was air printing. I was like NOOOO! Ended up measuring it and finding the layer in the gcode to start there (and removed the G28 to home - to not knock it off the build plate). was able to get it pick up where it left off but I ended up with a nice line o' reminder. Do have to say the larger base is amazing for cases! So far I've just tested it with 40 but it rocks! I also REALLY love the the smaller electronics box. Although putting things in there in a certain order is key compared to the older large boxes. But the form factor looks better! Thanks Tyler! I now have a spare regular base. That and the adjusting angle is super handy! All mine before I'd wedge something in there so they didn't slip. This project has gotten so much better with age! Now, where are the primers!? :P
    Looking good!

    When you find the primers let me know

  12. #5732
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUICEMAN View Post
    1. I didn't use the part manager, but maybe it's referring to the plug?

    2.spring adapters allow the springs to mount into the drop tubes...

    3.yes

    4. It's mentioned in this thread somewhere. I used a mix of 3mm, 4mm, and #2x1/4 panheads. I honestly can't remember what was where. If it fit, it was it.

    5.i like the AliExpress ones, but they are smaller in dia than advertised. Lots of spring tube for the price though.

    Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk
    Thank you for the answers... just for clarification...what if anything do I need to do when using the AliExpress springs since they are smaller in diameter then advertised?
    Thanks

  13. #5733
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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Thank you for the answers... just for clarification...what if anything do I need to do when using the AliExpress springs since they are smaller in diameter then advertised?
    Thanks
    Just use a smaller sized spring adapter (proper one for the actual spring size, not what it's labeled). Measure and decide which one you need. Like the 15mm spring from my AliExpress order is more like 13.4mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUICEMAN View Post
    Just use a smaller sized spring adapter (proper one for the actual spring size, not what it's labeled). Measure and decide which one you need. Like the 15mm spring from my AliExpress order is more like 13.4mm

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    Good example of why I ended up creating spring adapters that were marked and incremented by 1 mm. Trying to match up an adapter with a certain spring is a waste of time.

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    Hi. I have a question.
    Would it be possible to make a wish for a main body with mounting holes for this motor?
    Here in Sweden itīs one with a little better quality.
    I tried for myself but the files i got after gets corrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acp View Post
    Hi. I have a question.
    Would it be possible to make a wish for a main body with mounting holes for this motor?
    Here in Sweden itīs one with a little better quality.
    I tried for myself but the files i got after gets corrupt.
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    btw, I've only been able to find that motor at like 2700rpm so I assume you found one geared way slower.....you need like 12 to 16 rpm for a collator.

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    Well my luck continues to go per usual... Amazon is out of the Optic light
    switch... https://www.amazon.com/Esumsky-Photo...%2C225&sr=1-75
    Does anyone have any suggestions for another one?
    Thank you all for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    btw, I've only been able to find that motor at like 2700rpm so I assume you found one geared way slower.....you need like 12 to 16 rpm for a collator.
    I got the motor from Ali. Multiple options for the motor.
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3306...21ef1802gIgkTB

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Well my luck continues to go per usual... Amazon is out of the Optic light
    switch... https://www.amazon.com/Esumsky-Photo...%2C225&sr=1-75
    Does anyone have any suggestions for another one?
    Thank you all for your help!
    I'm not ignoring you....I just don't know anything about the photoswitches since I only messed with proximity sensors....hoping for your sake somebody has some good info for ya.

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