Now I don't have a 12 gauge right now,but I still pickup any and all brass,shotgun hulls that I find at local shooting range.In a short period of time I have aquired a large box of different brands of 12 gauge hulls once fired,only a handful of 410 and some 20 gauge.Thanks to folks that don't clean up after themselves.One thing I did notice is that Baschieri&Pellagra brand sure is alot different than other brands,Fancy