If you were going to buy a new bolt action in 270 Win which would you pick ? And why over the rest ?
A) CZ 557
B) Browning X - bolt
C) Win 70
D ) Weatherby Vanguard S2 / Howa 1500
E) Tikka T3X
If you were going to buy a new bolt action in 270 Win which would you pick ? And why over the rest ?
A) CZ 557
B) Browning X - bolt
C) Win 70
D ) Weatherby Vanguard S2 / Howa 1500
E) Tikka T3X
The Tikka will have the smoothers action and they tend to shoot very well.
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For me it would be a hard decision, CZ or the Vanguard/Howa. Depending on calibre wanted, that could make the decision for me. Have 4 Vanguards that are excellent shooters, calibres from .270 to .223. Very little to ask for improvement. All my CZ's are 550's, but a couple of friends have bought the 557's and had excellent results. The current Model 70's leave me cold, Portugese made I believe, a cheezy metal box trigger, not something I want in a Model 70. While I've liked all the Tikka's I've shot over the years, I just don't warm up to them, and the $70 all plastic magazines leave me kinda gasping. But they do work! I also buy walnut, not plastic, and most Tikka's I see today are plastic. Again a personal thing.
The only thing wrong with the Tikka in my opinion is the boot heel reverse angle recoil pad. It matters on .270 on up cartridges from the bench. I’ve tried all kinds of bolt actions over the years, but The Tikka is my favorite. Light, ergonomic, smooth action and scary accurate with a real trigger. The 3 shot magazine is plastic; but it is also flawless.
Another vote for Tikka. Light, great trigger, and accurate.
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Win 70, but honestly the mix there is purely going to be either a personal preference or the decision will be price based once you get them compared.
From your list, Vanguard. But also consider the Winchester XPR. Not only does CDNN sell them for a really good price (1/2 what a local sporting goods dealer wants), but Dave Petzal of Field and Stream (Google "Gun Nuts") raves about them. I bought an XPR 30-06 last November that only cost me $275 after Winchester's $75 rebate and included a Weaver 3-9X scope. It was going to be a "truck gun" until I shot it. Darned thing interlocked bullets at 100 meters off shooting bags.
I have a Tikka T3 that shoots any bullet I feed it very well. But a 270 in a Tikka Light will kick quickly and sharply. Mine is a 6.5X55. In my job as a range safety officer, I've seen CZ's shoot very well. and they are a bit heavier than the Tikka Light, so the recoil is more pleasant.
Handle them all. Pick the one whose stock puts the scope in alignment with your eye without searching for it. Just like a shotgun that fits.
I bought a Tikka T3 Hunter on closeout when the T3X's were coming out . 6.5 X 55 SE . Upgraded recoil lug , pillared & Devcon bedded stock . I too am not enamored with the plastic parts & will likely replace them over time . Shame that Win 70 has slipped along with Rem 700 . The Howa / Vanguard in a decent stock ( non-tupperware ) rather wood or composite will get a good look . Browning ?? wonder if they feed from a clip like the A-bolt . CZ looks handsome & if they shoot as well would get the nod most likely .
Winchester M70 Featherweight. That is one of the prettiest rifles I've seen. I've got 3 M70's and everyone of them is a shooter. I also prefer the 3 position safety.
Tikka actions are light and smooth
CZs with hand lapped barrels and smooth actions. M70s with 3 position safeties, push or controlled round feeds, jeweled bolts. These are where its at for me. Purely they way they make me feel when I have mine in my hands. They also just function and function well.
The M70 was my first and only centerfire bolt Ive owned, but shot many others. Had an RO interested in my cast loads so I let him shoot my it. He came away with a different view. He was my age, mid 30's, just out of the Army, said it was the only rifle that ran smoothly. Never a catch, slick throw. Put him behind my CZ rimfire and he went nuts over that too. To this day, if he's at the range and I have either rifle, I ask him to shoot. He never turns me down.
Winchester M70 Featherweight. I don't know about the new ones, but the 1993 controlled round feed 30-06 I have is the slickest action I have in the safe.
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My buddy has a .270 Tikka and it is very nice. It ticks him off that my $215 .308 T/C Compass will outshoot it. But I use handloads and he shoots factory. Might be the nut behind the trigger too...LOL.
I would get the Tikka, but for a hunting rig, just get what fits you the best.
BTW. I bought the Compass to get a lighter rifle than the M70 Coyote I was using. It was cheap, and I do not care if it gets wet or scratched in the woods. Nice that is shoots too! Hunting load below is its best groups with 165 gr GameKings, but consistently MOA
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tikka smooth and easy adjustable trigger.
Since October 2007, the Winchester Model 70 Featherweight has been produced by the Belgian company FN Herstal. The grimaces of history – an American cult carbine manufactured by a European company.
If the Winchester Model 70 was still US made that would have been my recommendation. It by far the best looking and i am a huge pre-64 Model 70 fan so I a bias towards the Model 70 but of the list the Tikka is the smoothest action and they tend to hold an accuracy edge.
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"The Highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about".
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As of 2012, new Winchester Model 70 rifles were being made by FN Herstal in Columbia, South Carolina. - which happens to be in the USA....
Click & scroll: https://www.winchesterguns.com/suppo...ufactured.html
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A gun beside me is what I keep
If I awake, and you're inside
The coroner's van is your next ride
The South Carolina post 2012 " pre 64" rifles are a fitting continuation of the line. They may be the ONLY Winchester made "over here".
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Only thing I am seeing in your link is that they made them in the US for a couple of years after 2006. Not seeing any recent US production.
https://www.winchesterguns.com/suppo...ufactured.html
Winchester Model 70.
It is no secret that Winchester Repeating Arms is part of the greater Herstal Group, with factories all around the world. The best factories are used for each model. Assembly and production of Model 70s have been shifted to our Viana, Portugal plant as indicated on the barrel inscription. Earlier production of USA-made guns is marked as such. For the first seventy years, production was in New Haven, Connecticut, the factory that closed in 2006. After 2006, a number of Model 70 bolt action rifles were produced at a Herstal Group factory (FNM) in South Carolina, U.S.A. over several years.
Production was then moved to our factory in Viana, Portugal -- a factory which was already part of the Herstal Group (our parent company). Generally, today, key parts are likely sourced worldwide with the rifle made and assembled in Portugal.
The "Made in USA" question.
Some hunters and shooters have reasons for purchasing only Made In USA firearms. Some hunters only revere "Pre-64" Model 70s. We understand. But it would be incorrect to base your decision whether to buy a new Model 70 made at our Portugal plant due to a fear of poor performance. Model 70s made and/or assembled in Portugal have stellar quality, accuracy and overall performance that matches or exceeds any production Model 70s ever in our history.
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2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
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