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    lyman 30 Caliber - #311332

    I'm looking for something for .308 around 175-180 grains and the weight here seem to fit the bill. I am looking for something in a spitzer design that can be used in my Magma MasterCaster.

    I will be using this for long range shooting, so I'm looking for this type of bullet.

    Has anyone here worked with this bullet before in a .308, how is the accuracy? I'm using foundry alloy lead.
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    yep, 308 is good and I like it, it's accurate enough for me out of my AR10

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    Here's what I am looking at, I am shooting long range matches. I'm really growing tired of spending $0.35 per bullet for 175 gr SMK's when I know i can cast a 175's for a lot less than that. I don't need sub sub moa accuracy at 100 yards, but at least 1/2-ish MOA would be great. I can work that from a load perspective though.

    ive got an email out with accurate molds asking about a custom cherry. I'd like to see something with a bit longer type of nose like a SMK but in a GC. Do you think it's worth it?
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    very accurate out of my 1-13 twist .300 Whisper, but needed 1500+fps.

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    One of my favorites in 30-06. I push them out at 1650 fps. A very acurate boolit for me when I seat them into the lands. I find that helps everything stay straight downbore. The spitzer feeds nicely in my mauser action too.

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    since you'll be shooting them a tad slower I would go with a heavier bullet.

    perhaps this one
    at about 200gr

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    this is out of a 30-06 but I suspect it may work out of a 308 also.


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    1/2 moa ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Ross View Post
    1/2 moa ?
    Yea i'd like to shoot sub 1" groups at 100 yards if possible, or else i will stick with SMK's.
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    Blammer that's a great group! What is your speed????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blammer View Post
    since you'll be shooting them a tad slower I would go with a heavier bullet.

    perhaps this one
    at about 200gr
    That bullet is INSANELY close to what I am looking for! The weight being at 200gr (+/-) is a bit too heavy to properly push out there like I am wanting to do, but at the same token it get's that speed down to around 2250 FPS with Varget on a 38.7gr charge (i use quickload). I'll have to run some ballistic data on this and see how it works over the long haul.

    For what it's worth, I'm planning to use the J&M lube from Bayou on all my cast bullets over the coming weeks / months. I'm in the process of converting to this.

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    yep the squares are 1/2'' squares so four of them make an inch.

    not sure on the velocity, havn't got them over a chrono yet.

    standard 22" brl on my Rem 700

    run it up quick load real quick see what the vel says.

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    my QL crapped out on the newer computer I got, just never got the chance to transfer it over.

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    I shoot the very similar, but heavier 311334. It shoots MOA or less all day long if I do my part in a 7.62x54r, but at a lot less speed(1300fps) than you are looking for. I have not been able to keep that accuracy at faster speeds yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blammer View Post
    my QL crapped out on the newer computer I got, just never got the chance to transfer it over.
    are you running an older version that's not windows 7 or win 8 compatible?

    Here, I used what you had on your target for a baseline for data. if you want me to drop in other variables let me know, i'd be willing to get more specific if you knew bullet specs for each area, but this as we both know is fairly close.
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    Blammer, What boolit is this and the diamiter ? It looks like the 311365
    Quote Originally Posted by Blammer View Post
    since you'll be shooting them a tad slower I would go with a heavier bullet.

    perhaps this one
    at about 200gr
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    Quote Originally Posted by texassako View Post
    I shoot the very similar, but heavier 311334. It shoots MOA or less all day long if I do my part in a 7.62x54r, but at a lot less speed(1300fps) than you are looking for. I have not been able to keep that accuracy at faster speeds yet.
    Yea I like speed, I've got a slew of powders here to work with and work up from. I have all of 2013 to develop this load, to be honest I will do whatever it takes to run 175-180 gr 30 caliber cast bullets. In the long run it will save me a ton of money no matter how much i spend now, as a bonus I'm going to prove to the people I shoot with that cast bullets CAN be equal to commercial bullets like SMK's in accuracy. I've got the magma to punch em out, and am in the process of automating the master caster and my star sizer.

    we all know they are capable if your right is up to the challenge and you have the know how to do it. I know my rig is up to it without a doubt, it's a FN SPR A1 with a custom brake on a McMillan A1 stock, Timney Trigger, Action Bedding, topped off with a U.S. Optics LR-17 3.2-17 MPR reticle. I've got about $6500-7k wrapped into that weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rszkutak View Post
    are you running an older version that's not windows 7 or win 8 compatible?

    Here, I used what you had on your target for a baseline for data. if you want me to drop in other variables let me know, i'd be willing to get more specific if you knew bullet specs for each area, but this as we both know is fairly close.
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    yea I think I am I have Win 7 and when I went from my old computer, don't know what ver it was. QL wouldn't reload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BACKTOSHOOTING View Post
    Blammer, What boolit is this and the diamiter ? It looks like the 311365
    It is the 311365 and that one is sized to .309

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    Like Texassako I have used the 311334 to good effect. But, like Texassako, I couldn't push it. Over 1400'/s and things went south quickly.

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