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    1895 Browning 338-06

    I want to buy another 1895 Browning and have the barrel re-bored to
    338-06. Will the 95 handle the pressure of this cartridge. 35 Whelen is another option, but I prefer the 338

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    The High Wall versions of the Browning came out in all sorts of high pressure cartridges, such as 3006, etc didn't they? I have seen alot of 22/250s and a 243 from memory.
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    Since this forum is "lever guns" I'd bet 50 cents he means the reproduction 1895 Winchester and not the 1885 Winchester single shot.

    Since I owned an original .30-06 1895 Winchester take-down rifle I'll give you the absolute tiniest piece of historical gogglygook I remember. The .30-06 was a bit too powerful for the action and caused some actions to spread apart to some degree. I shot mine a few times with M1 Ball and some handloads. Didn't work with it a long time before it had to be sold to put food on the table when I had a pregnant spousal unit and was on a labor strike in 1977 for 10 weeks. The Colt Gov't s/n C1220 and unfired/stone mint OVS/8776 1893 Mauser were also sold. If she wasn't pregnant I would've been far ahead to keep the guns and get rid of her.

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    The Browning is not same set up as the old Win . I know the 71 is different. The 338-06 is a very nice round If you go that route get a neck sizer. There is quite a difference in die dementions from what I have run into.. If you dont plan on alot of shooting a 100 A Square will last you. If you plan on alot then go with military brass. I have some if you ever need any

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    We still haven't worked out what rifle we are talking about, I thought he meant the Hi Wall copy.
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    find yourself a copy of the lever action special edition that rifle/handloader mag did some years back, Dave Scoville did some similar work on the 95, all prior to winchester bringing back the 405, and there is much good information in there for lever action guys, the copy is a must own,,,

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    Sorry guy's. I mean the 95 Winhester copy. I have a mauser in 338-06 and really like this caliber for big game. I think a 95 in this caliber will make a good bear rifle. I use my 444 marlin now but would like to have a lever with a little more range.

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    Short Answer. Yes, it would be fine.

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    If it will handle the 30-06, it should handle the 338-06 better as the bigger bore will drop pressure due to more room for powder gas expansion. A lot of experimenting went into Ruger pistols in 44 mag vs 45 Colt, end result was same velocity - less pressure, for a given bullet weight.
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    The USRAC version was offered in 270 Win. which is a pretty high pressure cartridge. All these rifles no matter which name is on it came from the same factory in Japan.

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    Won't the bigger bore give more back thrust? I thought that this fine ol' levergun was a bit leery about full strenght 3006 loads. The browning made one should be a tad stronger I suppose.

    I've always fancied one in 303British and a 7.62x54Russian.

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    After I hit the lottery, a Rising Sun Brownchester re-tubed to 9.3 x 62 will be an early addition to the fleet. Like FFOD, I'd fancy a 95 in 7.62 x 54R or 303 British........or 30-40 Krag. If it were mine, I'd limit the originals in 30-06 to 1906 ballistics, 150 grainers at 2700-2750 FPS.
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    Win did make the '95 in 7.62x54r for the czar's. Gun smith I Worked with in the late '60's had one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.5 mike View Post
    Win did make the '95 in 7.62x54r for the czar's. Gun smith I Worked with in the late '60's had one.
    That's why I want one, the American force that went to support the Czar also used them apparently (they might have used 3006 or 3003 or 30/40s, I think that were the cals you guys used around that time, I got the impression that that force were pretty much the poor relatives as far as the American Military went).

    They made 303s for the Canadians and the rest of the British Empire as well. Hugh Jackman's rifle in the recent movie 'Australia' is an 1895. I saw one recently at a gunshow in 303, but I had already spent wayyyyyyyyyyy too much and reluctantly passed it over

    I don't know why they don't allow them in cowboy action/SASS, they are a real part of that era. The only thing that stopped them being a popular military rifle was the way they exposed the operator in the prone position when working the action.
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    "I don't know why they don't allow them in cowboy action/SASS, they are a real part of that era. The only thing that stopped them being a popular military rifle was the way they exposed the operator in the prone position when working the action".
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    "Won't the bigger bore give more back thrust? I thought that this fine ol' levergun was a bit leery about full strenght 3006 loads". The browning made one should be a tad stronger I suppose.
    If the pressure is lower, I would think the back thrust would be less.
    I suspect the Browning is stronger because of modern steel and lawyers!
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