"Sound" shots

[lightman]

Sadly this happens way too often and is often tragic.

[popper]

If I hear a 'sound' in the middle of the nite in my house, it will get 'shot'. I did do a sound shot high in a tree line with a 12 ga - no, no dove around that day. Pack up and go home. And I knew where the other guys were.

[Shawlerbrook]

You can’t fix stupid !

[hoodat]

Couple years ago, I'd gone through a gate where I had permission, and set up to shoot ground squirrels with my Hawkin rifle. I was having a great time, taking a shot every five or ten minutes, and with a pretty high kill rate.

All the sudden a bunch of shooting erupted behind my position, with bullets flying all around me. I realized that I was out of sight from a rig on the road where someone had stopped to shoot (from the road) in exactly my direction. I fired a "sound shot" well above their heads, to let them know where I was. I heard doors slam, and the vehicle take off down the road. It all scared the crap out of me. jd

[Martin Luber]

Typical of city people coming upstate. Cows make pretty good deer too. Those get painted orange. Do you think it helps?

[TimD]

Individuals like this . . . well . . . as Forest Gump's Mother said . . "Sometimes you just can't fix stupid".

I once hear shots behind my house when we lived on the farm - it was during a year that they allowed you to take a doe or buck on your license to get the population down. I slid a 45 in my coat pocket and started off to find the intruder that was trespassing . . . especially since we had cattle whee I had heard the shot. I'll also mention that I was dressed in blaze orange. It didn't take log to find the guy - it was a field with a marsh and some brush in spots - he was denied from head to toe im blaze orange. I asked him what he was doing and he said he had permission to hunt there - oh really? I then informed him that I owned the and and nobody had permission to hunt. I asked him what he had shot at and he said he had seen a "flash of brown in the brush". What an idiot! I asked hi, "buck or doe"? and he said he didn't know. I then asked him if it could have been one of my cows - he was obviously a city slicker - we ran Holsteins and he had no idea that they were black and white. I told him to unload his gun and leave the way he came in and never come back - and I also advised him that he needed to learn how to hunt and that y9u never fire unless you ca identify the target and make sure that there is nothing behind it that would prevent you from shooting.

I wonder what would have happened in the case you describe if that "sound" had turned out to be a human, livestock or a neighbor's dog? Unfortunately, there are many out there who shoot without identifying their target and that is how people get killed in hunting "accidents". As far as I'm concerned, people like that should lose their hunting rights and shouldn't own firearms. They are a danger to themselves and to others.

I had the same experience. Found a hunter that "had permission" trying to climb over my barbed wire fence. He wasn't very happy when I sent him back through the swamp he came from. At least he didn't shoot one of my Angus. Might have been interesting if he found the bull's pasture.

[cas]

I've heard people say they "took a sound shot". They should be beaten to a pulp.

[Winger Ed.]

Typical of city people coming upstate. Cows make pretty good deer too. Those get painted orange. Do you think it helps?

None of my relatives in the Hill Country did,
but I've heard of ranchers that sold hunting leases in various other places spray paint "C O W" on them
in white or orange 2-3 foot tall letters after one of theirs had been shot.

[John Wayne]

Hey Mary B I'm glad you got that guy. Here in Georgia we call them Slob Hunters or White Trash.

[jim147]

Back in the '80's my dad and my uncles told me about deer hunting in the late '60's early '70's.

They were on a ridge they had permission to be on waiting. One of them moved and it turned into a war zone. They yelled for a while before the other group ran off. Idiots are everywhere.

[Land Owner]

Seems the title resonates within the hunting community and for no good reason. Sorry 10-x. The rest of us have had our fill of "poor decisions" from folks taking "sound shots" at noise rather than visual confirmations.

My maternal grandfather saved my "tender aged" skin of 13 as we walked a cow track together through his overgrown field. A poacher shot at, and fortunately just ahead of us, undoubtedly due to "movement and sound", as we passed through.

At the shot Granddad shoved us both to the ground. The shotgun pellets had already sprayed through, above and just ahead. Neither of us was hit. Granddad was MAD then. Scary MAD. He could not locate the poacher and I am quite certain that was best for the poacher. I don't know but suspect that Granddad would have hurt that man.

[BJK]

I don't know but suspect that Granddad would have hurt that man.

And I think rightly so.

[JoeJames]

I used to own 100 acres north of me. It was not posted. But walked in on opening day of gun deer season. I heard two shotgun blasts ... waited until the feller walked out. Asked if he got it. He said no, that he’d just made two sound shots. Told my neighbor about it who owned 250 acres butted up against my place. By dark that afternoon we had marked off his place and mine with “poacher paint”. That was the end of that.

Upon reflection I think that deer are probably about the only mammals safe from sound shots. I have deer hunted for 50 years or more, and I cannot recall ever actually hearing a deer going through the woods ... everything else is at risk: hunters, dogs, cattle, armadillos, but deer are probably safe.

[missionary5155]

I have heard deer hunters in ILL-nois talk about "taking sound shots". My first time to hear that remark I said "You do what !"
How many hunters yearly get killed because some fool has done such .....
If you read this and have done so please stop !

[cwlongshot]

100% Richard!!!

I have been a victim of this in upstate NY. I yelled loud and fired my rifle into the base of a tree. I was UNHURT but probably needed new drawers... As I got up I could hear the bugger running away... I have herd this speak in diners and gun shops. I always asked wherr thry hunted cause I wanted to be mountains away!

NOT COOL

Cw

[Three44s]

“A family of black bears .........”

That’s what a bunch of “immigrants” told a Game Warden when he found a black angus bovine stretched out on the kitchen floor of the house they were occupying as they were dressing it out!

......... a family of black bears ........ Indeed!

Three44s

[contender1]

I too could relate a few stories.

However,, I also teach Hunter Safety.

I STRESS to all new potential hunters the STUPIDITY, of such activities. I use all kinds of names for the types of people who do such stuff. I tell my classes; "A person like that would be the same type of person in the movie "Deliverance". Or, simple terms like; "Idiot, Stupid, Unethical, Moron, Poacher, In-bred, Coward," or any other derogatorily statement I can come up with.

I also stress that I'm a firearm instructor, and point out the (4) gun safety rules all over again.

Lastly, I use reports I get from the State about the previous accidents where someone was SHOT by another person to stress the point of NOT "sound shooting." And I often follow up with the CRIMINAL reports of some cases.

Hopefully, I make a difference.

[jaysouth]

When I was a child, 60 or 70 years ago, I heard the "old timers" talk about the folly and danger of "sound" shots. It was more prevalent then because most deer hunting was done with shotgun (no once could afford a rifle) ahead of dogs running them.

[SeabeeMan]

One of my dad's buddies still does this on a regular basis each fall. He's also the guy that aims for the white spot on the neck of whitetails for a "one shot kill" despite the fact that he has admittedly shot the jaw/muzzle off at least two deer that he was unable to recover.

When I used to teach hunter's safety, I was usually the guy who got to teach the hunting ethics section. I had a dad argue with me and storm out of the class with his two kids when I stated, in extremely clear terms, that they were NEVER to take exactly this kind of shot as it violates one of the fundamental rules of firearm safety and is one of the most unethical things you can do while hunting. He claimed that it must be safe because his grandad got the biggest buck he's ever seen doing that and proceeded to rant about our qualifications as instructors and the quality of the program in general! He had to be escorted out and his kids were not able to finish the course for that year.

Our conclusion as instructors was that hopefully their dad's embarrassing public meltdown was enough to prevent another couple of hunters from coming up with this unsafe practice.

[Lloyd Smale]

Ever heard of those? I had (stress on "had") a co-worker of "low station" (FL Cracker) that reported with authority, he and his kin took "sound shots" into the palmettos and thick brush when they "heard" movement there on the off chance of shooting a deer or hog trying to slip through. I think that "practice" to be unethical, despicable, disrespectful, and UNSAFE.

He took drugs, got laid off, and completely ruined his mind and his health. He did breed though, as well as his kin. There were other reported equal or WORSE tactics (imo) for taking deer and female Large Mouth Bass in spawning season that I won't reiterate. Sorry, no good folk, in my mind.

needs a kick in the you know what!