With No Ammo and No Reloading Supplies Available, Just How Smug Are You?

[Garyshome]

Just as smug as a bug in a rug!

[jim147]

A friend got some .308 today for a fair price. Just need to keep searching if you need factory.

[Alferd Packer]

Just as smug as a bug in a rug!

I know how you feel Gary!

[Johnch]

LOL Very Smug
As I Have powder
I have primers
I have enough Jacketed bullets for varmint hunting
I have LOTS of cast rifle and pistol bullets cast
With lots of the rifle and pistol bullets either Powder Coated or Standard lubed

I just need to get rid of these DARN Headaches AND soon at least some of the headaches will be less ( Not gone , but better )

Besides I keep getting ask to Sell cast pistol bullets
So I just Smile at them

John

[trapper9260]

I'm Prepared ... at least a lifetime supply and a little Lagniappe for good measure .
After 2008 and 2012 I saw the handwriting on the wall .. I'm not going to get caught with my pants down ever again .
Ever 4 years ... Whoomp , there it goes ... Shortage
Gary

You got it ,thinking the same way .

[762 shooter]

Just remember that if you are too smug, some self righteous socialist will say you are hoarding and want their fair share.

Just saying.

762

[robg]

only factory rounds i use are 22 rf.

[chumly2071]

Not smug, but temporarily comfortable, knowing my current inventory is a finite entity, and will eventually need replenishing.

[onelight]

Not smug, but temporarily comfortable, knowing my current inventory is a finite entity, and will eventually need replenishing.

That's where i am , can run off what I have several years if I don't give to much away

[W.R.Buchanan]

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Randy

[44 flattop]

Probably a bit too smug for my own good, but I've shouted for years for handloaders and shooters to prepare as much as possible. If there is one thing we ALL know, it's that there will always be another panic. New shooters are exempted, however.

At this point, I could shoot a few thousand rounds for the next forty or so years before running out of primers, lead, and Unique. Heck, while moving things around in my loading room, I found 750 rounds of virgin .45-70 brass, and another 500 rounds of virgin .348. No telling what else is buried in the back of my shelves!

[Johns87]

Not smug, but I've been reloading for over 20 years and glad I started adding inventory a few years back. About 6 months ago, I decided to get into casting and as soon as I can get a few molds, I'll feel better about making my own boolits. Unfortunately my inventory keeps taking hits since my daughter and I shoot about 20K rounds a year between training, steel shooting and plinking.

[blue32]

I would love to blast some skeet but relegated my 28 ga to hunting only and was able to make it through rabbit season on half a box. I'm probably good on everything for another 2 years, maybe 4 at reduced shooting. I'm definitely shooting more 32-20 at the rifle range than 223 and I absolutely love the small pistol / small rifle primer compatibility.

[charlie b]

Was at Sportsmans again this morning. Got 1000 primers for $24 (they had more than 10 bricks of different types). They also had a bottle of H110, which I have not seen for a while.

There was a bunch of ammo, 9mm at $13/box (30 or 40 boxes). .38, .357, .45 etc. Even a selection of Hornady Critical Defense in different calibers. Another I almost bought was a box of 1000 .38 158 SWC bullets, but, I have molds for my .357. Didn't look for AR or AK stuff. There is still not much in the way of bullets, but, they did seem to have some in just about every caliber. Maybe not the specific type or weight you want, but, you could get something.

This is the third week in a row that they have received their 'normal' amount of primers.

[RogerDat]

I would love to blast some skeet but relegated my 28 ga to hunting only and was able to make it through rabbit season on half a box. I'm probably good on everything for another 2 years, maybe 4 at reduced shooting. I'm definitely shooting more 32-20 at the rifle range than 223 and I absolutely love the small pistol / small rifle primer compatibility.

Makes a good point. Many of us have a "lifetime" supply simply because if things get scarce or difficult to replace as used our consumption of them will be reduced. At 20k rounds a year it might only be a couple of years worth but if reduced to 2k rounds a year due to scarcity that same 20k rounds is 10 years. We adapt our actions to our perceived situation well much of the time.

I had never thought of the idea of a "lifetime supply" as being an old mans thing. I fear that may be correct. We are able to see how many years that might be. Are often stable in our living arrangements. Have had years to lay in supplies (or accumulate cra… I mean stuff) When I was younger man I can't see wife being thrilled if I was hauling buckets of scrap lead home. Now dear wife is just glad I'm out in the garage and out of her way for a while. We are also more likely than a younger man with kids at home to have the financial resources to say "how much for all of it" when it comes to lead, gun show supplies and equipment, or estate sale. That is how I came home with a 450# barrel of printers type. When I was 30 or 40 years old I'm not sure that would have been a survivable purchase.

I also see that more and more people are noting items becoming available at "normal" prices from retail outlets. A lot of the motivation for the recent spate of purchase of firearm, ammo, and reloading components is due to the pandemic causing concern about society functioning. You toss in an election which is always good for some increase in buying due to uncertainty. Followed by Democratic party majority in Congress and holding the White House which is a reason to be concerned about firearm regulations.

The regulation that they most want as part of "common sense gun safety" is universal background checks. At least one Democratic senator has said it doesn't have enough of a carve out for selling to people you know or family for him to vote for it. Thing that it seems no one is able to get their heads around and address is what are the real situations that define the problem and how does one address those issues.

Most if not all of these high profile events have nothing about them that such a change in background check laws as is proposed would address. The firearms were legally held by someone who decided to commit a crime. Or illegally possessed. Or they killed someone and took their firearm. If having to reload the magazine after 10 shots made gun safer then the British, American, Germans and Russian firearms of WW2 would be entirely safe. A proposition that is made a mockery of by the death toll when those "low capacity" firearms were used in combat.

Real world handguns are much more likely to be involved in a homicide. People carry handguns, they have them available, they can carry them without being noticed. Again though I think one would find doing more background checks would have little impact.

I really wish reasonable gun owners could figure out laws that might help to address a very real issue of violence with firearms. Not try to pretend it doesn't exist of assume their rights supersede anyone else's rights to live in a society where there is less violent crime.

If mass shootings involve people that passed background checks or who procured the firearm illegally then more background checks can't really be expected to fix the problem of mass shootings. If the shooting could have been done with lower capacity magazines then it is safe to assume magazine capacity won't make a real difference.

I don't really have an answer that I'm sure would really work. Funding more mental health in patient facilities might be a place to start. Providing consistent penalties for crimes committed with a firearm. On the basis of society will only have to put up with that which it shows itself willing to put up with. If threatening or shooting people with a firearm insures consistent punishment as opposed to becoming a bargaining chip the prosecutor trades for guilty plea to some other charge it might actually help.

Let's face facts a whole segment of society finds firearms scary, unnecessary, and a danger to themselves and those they love. Telling them tough luck I have a right isn't addressing the situation. It does however make them easy pickings for any politician who promises to "do something" about guns. When universal background checks don't fix the problem it just means there will be an attempt to expand the regulations in a never ending cycle of further restrictions likely to fail to really make a difference.

Screwing gun owners is no difference than passing a sin tax on cigarettes. Since only 25% of the population smokes you gain more votes than you lose by taxing other things such as gasoline. Restrictions on gun owners are going to impact a minority, while pleasing at least as many who feel strongly against people owning firearms, and most of the public just won't care.

May not play well in certain districts or areas of the country but overall a majority don't mind if gun ownership get more regulations. Heck my wife doesn't really see why anyone really needs an AR (I'm not really a fan of that style rifle) however when I point out the little .22 plinking rifle she has is just as much a semi-auto and has a magazine just as the AR does she sort of listens and gets at least the idea of how to ban one without banning the other isn't straight forward. Hey we have been married for over 22 years. That she listens to me at all is a miracle of "call the Pope" proportions.

I think I missed out I could have had a small fortune if I had sold off the bulk of my supplies, keeping only my most useful powders, and drawing down primers to a year or two worth on hand. Heck I could have had a big old casting session and then sold all of my lesser molds (cough*Lee*cough) because those $20 dual cavity were going for around $150 online to the desperate or the foolish.

I'm pretty sure by another few months I could have taken those mad profits and totally restocked with 8# jugs from selling three or four 1# bottles. Oh well too lazy I guess. Prices have already dropped. Not a sure thing to find one place with what you want in stock but getting easier to find it someplace at normal retail prices if you do some looking. Doubt many are willing to pay 3x or 4x that retail price to avoid the search. It also means people become less persistent in trying to buy up stock. Once primers are available "sometimes" people will be less inclined to be on the hunt for them and snatch up any and all they find.

With the current prepper mindset based on pending breakdown of civilization, possible civil war etc. Combined with push to enact restrictions and regulations unlikely to address the situation we are all as someone said one nut job away from the next round of shortages and ever more restrictions. So you buys it now or maybe do without later. And yes I am old enough to use phrases like "lifetime supply" as a goal.

[stubshaft]

In my neck of the woods, there are very few charcoal burners around so caps are still available. If those dry out i have a relatively large stock of holy black for my flintlocks and if that runs out, I have my air rifles.

[bisleyfan41]

I really wish reasonable gun owners could figure out laws that might help to address a very real issue of violence with firearms. Not try to pretend it doesn't exist of assume their rights supersede anyone else's rights to live in a society where there is less violent crime.

Reasonable gun owners don't need to come up with laws that address the issue. The laws are already there. They are either not enforced, plead out in court, or dropped in exchange for cooperation. Then criminals are let out of jail early, either out of "compassion" or lately to reduce the spread of covid in facilities. Enforce existing laws, lock up felons who use guns illegally, and keep them there. That's the recipe for success. New laws won't be any more effective against felons because existing ones aren't enforced, only the law-abiding lose.

The other thing that bothers me and ALL GUN OWNERS NEED TO GRASP is the gun control agenda has nothing to do with crime or violence or safety or felons or unicorns. Statistics bear this out; no gun control bill has ever reduced crime and never will. That's what the antis use to sell it to the uninformed masses, gun owners or not. Gun control is all about disarming the American population to take away any resistance to big govt control and power. Disarm the people, then do whatever you wish to them. The federal govt hates the Bill of Rights because it tells them what they cannot do to us and the ONLY teeth in the BOR is the 2nd Amendment. Until/unless we quit accepting the false narrative that the antis are only fighting for safety or crime or safe streets, we will lose. They want 100% disarmament of 100% of the people and they will not stop until they reach that goal. And when they do, America is done.

[Scrounge]

Reasonable gun owners don't need to come up with laws that address the issue. The laws are already there. They are either not enforced, plead out in court, or dropped in exchange for cooperation. Then criminals are let out of jail early, either out of "compassion" or lately to reduce the spread of covid in facilities. Enforce existing laws, lock up felons who use guns illegally, and keep them there. That's the recipe for success. New laws won't be any more effective against felons because existing ones aren't enforced, only the law-abiding lose.

The other thing that bothers me and ALL GUN OWNERS NEED TO GRASP is the gun control agenda has nothing to do with crime or violence or safety or felons or unicorns. Statistics bear this out; no gun control bill has ever reduced crime and never will. That's what the antis use to sell it to the uninformed masses, gun owners or not. Gun control is all about disarming the American population to take away any resistance to big govt control and power. Disarm the people, then do whatever you wish to them. The federal govt hates the Bill of Rights because it tells them what they cannot do to us and the ONLY teeth in the BOR is the 2nd Amendment. Until/unless we quit accepting the false narrative that the antis are only fighting for safety or crime or safe streets, we will lose. They want 100% disarmament of 100% of the people and they will not stop until they reach that goal. And when they do, America is done.

Exactly right. John Lott told us years ago how to reduce crime. "More Guns, Less Crime". Make it down right UNSAFE to go out and start shooting people. Arm and train everyone. We also need to drag all the politicians who want to disarm us out of their offices, and stuff them back in their homes with only themselves for their own security. I blasted my senators for voting to confirm Merrick Garland. They want another vote from me, they're going to have to bend over backwards and do some serious 2nd Amendment-friendly stuff before the next election. And if they can't figure out how to block passage of anti-2nd Amendment laws while they're still there, they better get used to the idea of going back to private life. And they may need to move out of state to do that.

[dtknowles]

Seems like two political posts in a row.

Tim

[Oaks&Pines]

I learned from the obummer years and started stocking then. Also got myself a C&R as I saw it as a way to stick it to the "man". Best $10 a year you can spend, pays for itself many times over.
When the .22 shortage hit I was already into Sheridan's .20 and got all my nieces and nephews shooting them and made sure each of my brothers had one (I gave away 5 rifles and pellets for each) My Nieces can all just about out shoot me with open sights (getting old I guess)

I dont shoot as much as I would like too, Covid has not given me any free time, actually been working more hours. But do have the supplies and resources to if the opportunity presents itself.
I stop at the local GS 4-5 days a week after work (2 Miles away) to check on inventory. have been able to pick up Primers (SR) and powder and even .223 and 9 mm bullets.
I have a couple of hundred pounds of lead in the garage and molds for what I shoot and am now looking for others to provide for my younger brothers, Dads turning 80 this year and is slowing down but I still have enough .22s and .20 pellets for him although he doesn't do much pumping anymore at his age.

Got a can for my pistols on order so I can shoot whenever without bugging the neighbors too much, so won't have to worry about finding range time.

Seems like the worlds just getting crazier all the time.
Helps a person sleep at night not having to worry about protecting yourself and your family.

Wouldn't call myself a prepper but was always taught to be prepared for what ever.