Don't know why you guys don't like HF Red, it's as good as any coating out there! I also use Smokes products, have 3 different colors on hand & use them but they don't work a bit better than HF Red & I've shot a LOT of it in many, many different revolvers. Easy to apply, groups are small & I've taken a lot of game with HF Red bullets. Six different animals last year with 6 different revolvers. Deer, antelope & elk.
Dick