The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Do you have real knife-edge tips on those calipers?
If not,try flattening a case to get a straight part to measure. Measuring a round case with a tool with any thickness reads more than is true.
If they really are .018 they can not ever fire jacketed either. A faulty batch.
Here is a flattened case.
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Wow.
My calipers do not have a sharp knife edge though. It's flat. That's why I flatten the case.
But it looks like your brass is no good. I wonder what size bullets it's been fired with?
Your calipers are sharp enough and whether I flatten mine or measure as is, always = .018. Do not know what size bullets were shot out them but glad it wasn't shot out of mine. So as far as I'm concerned the mystery has been solved. I measured several Hornady and Starline cases and all .015 thick. Looks like I'll be making something else with the CBC cases other than reloads!
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Yep,they wouldn't chamber in mine with Magtech .500 jacketed either. Those should not chamber in any gun.
I just find it very strange,having old and new CBC brass here. Local dealer -who is also the longtime finnish CBC importer- hadn't heard of this either - as a side note,they had another brand 500 bulging chambers when CIP shots were fired though.
I get Magtech 400 JSP ammo for 1,20€ / bang. Hornady brass alone costs more, can't find Starline for now but it's not cheap either. Global World economy is so strange.
Last edited by Petander; 07-02-2019 at 07:35 AM.
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
I'm confused.
To stir the pot a tad more I just ordered a Lee 500 crimp die from Titan. I was hoping for the Factory Crimp with carbide ring to size the whole cartridge,they don't have it for 500.
Let's see what comes.
This is just going to be the "nature of the beast" kind of thing. I tried loading another 440 gr-sized-powder coated-gas checked slug in a CBC case (wishful thinking). Same thing, won't fit cylinder. Over all diameter measures .531 which makes sense if the bullet is .500 and ONLY if case wall was .015 +/- but it's not! It's .018. The NOE bullets (340-350 grain) work great in CBC cases. Why? HIIK I size em all through same sizer. Let me know how that works from Titan.
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Will do. Titan has always been good.
Is your NOE gas checked?
I'm on a roll with this after a few years break,good accuracy and lots of fun so I just ordered a plain base mold from NOE. I figured it's the only way to see how they work. GC I get no leading. And I always wanted a NOE mold anyway,now the first one is coming...
My Hi Tek coating is working good up to 1900 fps with a 45-70 plain base. This 500 is higher pressure...
NOE has always been good,too. I've bought gas checks and expanders.
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Just ordered and received 100 cases from "Orisolo" (A USA) and sure enough all case wall thickness were .015 so I'm good to go with those! So now I know I can trust Hornady, Starline and A USA. Does anyone know who else manufactures cases for the 500 S&W?
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Good find.
I started seating bullets with RCBS (carbide set) seater,it is much larger than my Redding (steel set) seater. Now I can flare more,seat with RCBS (it came with a FN stem,too ) and use Redding as a final crimper. It's impossible to make oversize rounds with the Redding seater,it's like a taper crimper / factory crimper die,sizing the whole round down even before being turned lower to actually crimp the bullet in the groove.
Last edited by Dieselhorses; 07-13-2019 at 09:03 PM.
The unexamined life is not worth living....Socrates
Pain, is just weakness leaving the body....USMC
Fast is fine, but accuracy is FINAL!....Wyatt Earp
Load those NOE:s...? It's a mystery how they worked but...?
I have a mystery,too: after five reloads,a couple of CBC cases only chamber in a certain position. Turned just a little, no more plunk. They only go this deep:
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Can't push them in with finger force. But when those marks point to the cylinder center they plunk with gravity. No burrs in the rear of brass,it's not too long,clean chambers...?
Redding Profile Crimp die might be worth trying.
If it is as snug fit as their seater it will help with oversize rounds. As well as crimp good,too.
My thoughts,too. But even when I full length size those problem cases,they still won't completely chamber,except in one position only. I took some material off a shellholder top and die mouth to size deeper,still no go.
EDIT: I fired the whole box again, 7th reload , and examined the fired brass by chambering it. Those same two (marked) non-chambering cases are still behaving the same. Interestingly it is the same with every chamber...? They can be pushed in any cylinder when the markings point at the cylinder center. Point it out,no go.
If I had an out-of-round chamber,wouldn't there be five out of 25 cases then?
I need to take a micrometer and really examine those two weirdos. The problem must be at the very base of brass,I think.
I used to load for 357 and 44 mag,never experienced this before 500.
Last edited by Petander; 07-16-2019 at 10:08 AM.
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