Just picked up a Sig P238 the other day and had some 95 gr. LRN from Missouri Bullet Co. laying around that I hadn't loaded with yet. Decided to make just a plinking round. Loaded up 5 rounds with 2.8gr of HP-38. At 15 yds or so, it hit to point of aim, and my group I could cover with a post-it, and it dropped all the brass in about a foot wide circle to my 3 o clock. I'll take it.