I have been looking for a good used model 15 or a 67 this summer , but have not found one that was in decent shape that did not come close to the price of the new model 67 or within a couple hundred dollars of it . I am trying to be patient as I am looking for a fun shooting 38 . So my question is hang on looking for a nice gentle used one or consider a new model 67 ? Are the new ones as smooth and as good a shooter , or should I just hold on until I find one used but not abused ?