I have tried 10 different ways to download a photo here with no results.... anyway, a friend picked up a whole assortment of loose ammo at a garage sale. Only type I had never seen before, and could not find in any cartridge manuals was a rimmed, straight wall cartridge (0.885" case length), .308 diameter hollow base Lead bullet, which weighed 87.6 grains. No head stamp print at all.