I 've loaded a handful of NOE 170(176grs) plain base with 7.1grs Red Dot(1.0cc Lee dipper) for my 30-30 to try today. Does anyone like RD for this? These are my first cast loads to try in my just completed 1926 Oviedo Mauser 30-30.
Best, Thomas.
I 've loaded a handful of NOE 170(176grs) plain base with 7.1grs Red Dot(1.0cc Lee dipper) for my 30-30 to try today. Does anyone like RD for this? These are my first cast loads to try in my just completed 1926 Oviedo Mauser 30-30.
Best, Thomas.
Sorry, no I haven't tried it but I'm interested in how it works out for you. I just acquired my first 30-30 and have a good supply of red dot
I like Red Dot, and have used it in the 30/30. Can't remember the exact load, but it was close to yours, amd I'll dig it out later when I get a minute. I have tried it with and without a Dacron filler, and can't see much difference. I was using a Marlin 336, you should get great accuracy with your Mauser.
Keep us posted.
Just checked, it was 6.5 grains.
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I havne't got my loading data with me - it's back in MI - but I use Red Dot in 30/30 and it does well for me. I have played with a 150 ish grain plain base as well as a 170 ish - as well as both with GC and if I remember correctly, my load was just under yours. Out of a Winchester Ranger 30/30 and my old Marlin 336SC they shot pretty well. I was limited to 50 yards and was working on the loads prior to coming to AZ for the winter.
Please let us know how your range time goes. I like Red Dot. It works well in my old GEW98 8mm as well but I only shoot lighter loads. I have a number of different powers but I have a 8 pound jug of Red Dot sitting on the shelf for a reason - it works!
Several years ago I used Green Dot for loading plinking loads in the .30-30 for use in an H&R Model 158. They worked acceptably; so I have no doubt Red Dot will work, it is just finding the sweet spot for your rifle and load.
Robert
This is the data I use
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm
I use Reddot for my 30/30 for cast. It will smokes like a chimney with my traditional lube but its clean with my PC boolits. I will have to look to verify but if I remember correctly I am using 8.0gr with a 150gr cast boolit.
5 Gr Red Dot is good for me with a 165 gr boolit in my JM marlin 30-30 Boolit sized .311
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I have recently been working with several bullets in the 140 to 180 grain range in the 30-30 with between 6 and 8 grains of Red Dot. One thing is for sure, A little goes a long ways. I'm using it for plinking loads and the results are certainly acceptable. I'm thinking with a plain based bullet you may get better results with a charge in the 6 grain range, but that is of course just a guess.
Good Luck, and have fun,
Rick
Happiness for me was around 6 grains with a 170 grain boolit.
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+1 on 5.0 grains of Red dot.
I have used it with a 311-291, as well as a 311-245 with complete satisfaction out to 50 yards.
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Yes I have used it with the 311291 also 5 gr very nice!
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6.4 gr Red Dot and 165gr gc design without the gas check tumbled in Liiquid alox gives me 1050 fps in my 30/30. It is a hoot to shoot.
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I'm trying 5.6 grs under the 170 and also the Lee 150 fpgc. Shouldn't be too loud.
I'll get on the bags this time and give it a fair test.
Got a picture of that mauser.
Iv'e used some adi powders of similar burn rate and my 30-30 shot well.
Mine seamed to like a soft lube and bullets better.
50/50 bw and vas but anything soft should work.
Swirling winds today so I shot at 40yds. 6 shot groups with both boolits were 1-1/4" with no earplugs needed. I played chase the bullet on plain cardboard for a 1/2" 3 shot group with the Lee bullet, it fed better too. Pictures of the project are in the barrel works / gun smithing section.
I'm happy with this for a plinking/small game load.
Best, Thomas.
Good data happily shared by all. I am late to the party here but have little to add.
Used lots of Red Dot over the years,
2.5 grains in .32 S&W Long with 98-105 grain bullet
3 grains in .32 H&R Mag and .32-20 with 100-120 grain bullet
4 grains in 7.62x39 with 150-162 grain bullet
5 grains in .32-40 with 170-grain bullet
6 grains in .30-30 with 130-170 grain bullet, and in .44-40 with 200-grain bullet
7 grains in .30-40 Krag with 200-230 grain bullet, and in .44 Magnum with same weight
8 grains in .30-'06 with 160-grain cast bullet
13 grains in .303 Brit, .308 Win., .30-'06 7.9x57 with pulled military FMJ Ball bullets.
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I may try it in the .358 for a play load. I'm loading some hunting loads-cast & jacketed-soon.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |