Wish I could hold an 8" group at 50 yds. The only person I compete against (and have to please) is myself, and after many K's of rounds of Lee 401-175-TC and Lyman boolits thru my G22 w/LW barrel it is obvious to me that I personally shoot tighter groups (whether slow or rapid fire) with either the Lyman 401043 or 401654. I also have distinct preferences for the boolits I use in .45, .44, 38/357, 9MM and .380 strictly based on my personal evaluation of performance. Totally agree with you that 40SW is a goblin popper, my G22 stays on the night stand.