Yup! Word gets around nowadays!
Yup! Word gets around nowadays!
Look twice, shoot once.
W/ powder being available again why would anyone even bother w/ them? They happened to acquire a large quantity at an opportune time. They then blew their chance to establish themselves as a reputable business.
Besides the poor customer service, who is actually making the powder? Is it being made with the type of care and expertise that the large trusted companies that have been producing powder for decades are doing? What if there is a bad mix, and they just say, oh well and don't do a recall? Who compensates you for blowing up your gun or burning your house down? Personally, I don't think it's worth the risk, but one guy on here thinks it's the BEST POWDER EVER and says so EVERY time there is a discussion on it; which seems very odd to me.
Last edited by Prospector Howard; 07-30-2016 at 12:02 PM.
Never in history has there been a situation so bad that the government couldn't make it worse.
A foolish faith in authority is the enemy of the truth.
There is no need to worry about the quality of the powder. It's simply a relabel job on their part. They don't make it.
Relabled from what powder and manufacturer?
Never in history has there been a situation so bad that the government couldn't make it worse.
A foolish faith in authority is the enemy of the truth.
ETR7 is Maxam CSB-1. All this information is out there. A lot of it on this very forum. There are only a select few smokeless powder manufacturers.
Thanks, dragon. As I recall Maxam is big in the shotgun shell arena. I never needed to go looking for new pistol powders as I stocked up on Bullseye and Unique before the madness and didn't need to research replacements.
Never in history has there been a situation so bad that the government couldn't make it worse.
A foolish faith in authority is the enemy of the truth.
This is what I have found as well, and from all I can tell it *is* a great powder. But again, we aren't in shortage situation anymore and poor customer service rarely gets repeat business. If they had their act together I'd be sitting on 16lbs right now instead of 0.
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The powder is fine and use Titegroup data to start. It's a little slower than Titegroup but not much. I don't care for the business end and won't buy from them again. Others may have better luck with them than I did. It left a bad taste in my mouth and the powder, after the shipping charge, was not any cheaper than buying Titegroup itself.
I Am Descended From Men Who Would Not Be Ruled
Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum
There is enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world
Ronald Reagan.
These guys are a joke. Have tried to do business with them several times and same results. What makes it really bad is the owner (Richie Smissen) claims to be a Christian and even was the speaker at a men's event I went to. He shared a good message, but then you find out how the guy really is... Completely blew his testimony with all kinds of people. Stay away from these guys. Bad news....
I have mulled ordering from them, but factoring in the shipping and hazmat it only makes sense if I order in quantity, and that is a tough sell for an untested product from a company with somewhat a mixed customer service review. That and I think I have like 8# of genuine Titegroup and same in Unique so can't find any good reason to spend the money for pistol and I'm good on rifle powder similar to theirs.
Glad the shortage is over, and I bet during shortage there were at least some people that were really glad to get some of that Expansion Industries powder. Not factoring in CC fees was silly, as is not having the web site work to calculate full order.
Scrap.... because all the really pithy and emphatic four letter words were taken and we had to describe this source of casting material somehow so we added an "S" to what non casters and wives call what we collect.
Kind of hard to claim to love America while one is hating half the Americans that disagree with you. One nation indivisible requires work.
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It's really too bad, as it is a very good powder. Hopefully when the need arises, i can get some of the CSB powder from another vendor and use it in its place. The customer service side of Expansion has unfortunately sealed its fate, I think. WAY too many people having to resort to charge backs to get refunded after non delivery and no response from the company.
I Am Descended From Men Who Would Not Be Ruled
Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum
There is enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world
Ronald Reagan.
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Well at least they are telling people although they are still lying about the dot regulations. There are no such things mandatinng any fees
I Am Descended From Men Who Would Not Be Ruled
Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum
There is enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world
Ronald Reagan.
Liberalism is the triumph of emotion over intellect, but masquerading as the reverse.
I don't know how we ever shot maximum loads before P/C come along and saved us all. R5R
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"Dueling should have never been made illegal in this country. It settled lots of issues between folks."- Char-Gar
Saw a mention of it on a Facebook reloading group, and for whatever reasons, the Expansion website has been turned off with only an under construction page at the front. Wondering if they are really reworking, or if their reputation finally caught up to them?
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |