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    some small martini rifles

    here are some baby martini rifles

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    Now, Man, that's like hangin' donuts from the flag pole.

    Calibers? Stockmaker? Metalsmith?

    Come on!


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    30 carbine rimmed
    22-17 myra extruder
    17 ackley bee
    5.6x50 r magnum
    17 ackley bee
    these were done by Bevan King(recently passed away) and I over a number of years .We made the barrels and bushed the firing pins/bent the levers ect .The 22-17 was not bushed as it remains a rimfire .The top and 3,4 have modified 1 leged spring loaded extractors which we coppied of the internet from an australian and they chuck the empties with ease .

    We did most of the stock work ,one was untouched as we only rebarreled it and the 4th was done by a local craftsman.I had nothing to do with the fifth rifle except to take it apart for recoating as it was worn and Bevan made that one in the 80's for Stan well before I knew him .

    they were ceracoated at Corlains in Dawson Creek BC Canada as they wear stainless steel barrels and blueing was not an option .The rifles were in various states of completion when Bevan passed ,I decided to complete them over the last few months .Only regret is that Bevan didn't see them finished .Just finished them off last week.
    Peter
    Last edited by blackbahart; 12-06-2015 at 01:54 PM. Reason: add info

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    Wow!! Beautiful rifles.

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    Very nice eye candy. Great job and all are great Cal. For this action. Thanks for posting them.

    Roy
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    Wow! Thanks for sharing.
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    I was having another look at them on NE Peter and the stock detail on the 56x50 where it comes from the action onto the wrist with the raised panel is a particularly nice touch. These little actions/rifles have an almost hypnotic appeal to them and to see this array of them is quite delightful.
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    Nice Rifles,great finish you have on them.This is one I rebuilt in 32.40 cal.The two larger rounds are 45.70 and 50.70 for comparison.

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    They are a easy action to work with .I found most of the actions loose so that leaves your imagination to decide how to stock them within reason .Still have a loose one still with no plans of yet what it is going to be. I posted them on NE also to show the scope bases before finishing assembly .Will be zeroing them back in shortly ,weather permiting .

    Col4570 that is a nice greener
    Peter

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    Those are just BEAUTIFUL. Classic beautiful rifles.

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    Duuuuuuuuuuuude! Them's NICE!

    Welcome! You've probably already scrolled down to Hooker 53's More Cadet Talk thread. Many of our adventures chronicled there.

    Between Pop and I are three Martini's; a International match .22, a Cadet .32-20, and the Imperial Big Momma .577/.450. Something intangible about them that just lights up one's DAMN SERIOUS RIFLE detectors.
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    One can never have Ti many Martoonies! (apologies to W.C. Fields) I have 9 and still counting. Short firing pin-fall, strong action, close tolerances, what's not to like? My favorite is the Greener Mk111, .40-65 Win.

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    I just love the Martinis!
    .22 hornet, .218 bee, .222 Remington, .25-20 winchester and a .310 cadet in original condition.
    A future project will be a 250-303 on a Martini Enfield, finances permitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbahart View Post
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    30 carbine rimmed
    22-17 myra extruder
    17 ackley bee
    5.6x50 r magnum
    17 ackley bee
    Peter
    Ummm, dude, iif I'm not mistaken, that one is a LOOOOONNNGGGGG way from home. The MYRA Squeeze Bores were a creation by a gunsmith in Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia. Was it made in Australia, or B.C.C.?
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    I started a thread on this in rimfire while we were making the barrel .It was made here in Dawson Creek BC and the reamer was/is a PTG made to the originators specs
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...e-bore-chamber
    Last edited by blackbahart; 12-08-2015 at 12:43 AM.

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    I missed your other thread. It is good to see Mr Langsford's idea made it overseas. I lived in Broken Hill for three years and did most of my buying for gunstuff from him. He had some great ideas, but it is hard to promote these ideas from the middle of nowhere. He had a bunch of wildcats, I am pretty sure all named "Myra", his gunshop was also named "Myra's", I think. He was truly a gentleman, always polite. He sold the gunshop when he retired, the people who bought it paid for his good name, then they proptly ran both the shop and it's good name into the dirt. It is good that something that he made has gone somewhere.
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    Did Myra have a business relationship with Fieldman? That is the brand I remember having the "extruder" barrel.

    Very beautiful rifles BTW.

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    I have a cadet in 7.62x39 which wears the "one legged extractor from The Australian gunsmith" Tony Small, who built it for me and is is also a member here.
    Need to post some pics here, am awaiting a fore end for it after the caliber change from .222R
    I have been running 11.5 BHN Lee 155gr GC CB with 11.5 gr Blue dot, home brew Lube, for a clover leaf at 50m, and 123 gr PPU for a ragged 1 hole group at 100M. Fascinating action.Am strongly tempted to go in for a bigger boomer, but will have to close my eyes/ears to Von Gruff's temptations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eljefeoz View Post
    I have a cadet in 7.62x39 which wears the "one legged extractor from The Australian gunsmith" Tony Small, who built it for me and is is also a member here.
    Need to post some pics here, am awaiting a fore end for it after the caliber change from .222R
    I have been running 11.5 BHN Lee 155gr GC CB with 11.5 gr Blue dot, home brew Lube, for a clover leaf at 50m, and 123 gr PPU for a ragged 1 hole group at 100M. Fascinating action.Am strongly tempted to go in for a bigger boomer, but will have to close my eyes/ears to Von Gruff's temptations!
    Listen up eljefof once you start closing of on temptations there is no telling what you may miss out on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbahart View Post
    fromthe top
    30 carbine rimmed
    22-17 myra extruder
    17 ackley bee
    5.6x50 r magnum
    17 ackley bee
    these were done by Bevan King(recently passed away) and I over a number of years .We made the barrels and bushed the firing pins/bent the levers ect .The 22-17 was not bushed as it remains a rimfire .The top and 3,4 have modified 1 leged spring loaded extractors which we coppied of the internet from an australian and they chuck the empties with ease .

    We did most of the stock work ,one was untouched as we only rebarreled it and the 4th was done by a local craftsman.I had nothing to do with the fifth rifle except to take it apart for recoating as it was worn and Bevan made that one in the 80's for Stan well before I knew him .

    they were ceracoated at Corlains in Dawson Creek BC Canada as they wear stainless steel barrels and blueing was not an option .The rifles were in various states of completion when Bevan passed ,I decided to complete them over the last few months .Only regret is that Bevan didn't see them finished .Just finished them off last week.
    Peter
    What brass and bullet diameter do you use for the .30 Carbine Rimmed? I once calculated that you could do a good .32 with the Carbine reamer and dies and .32-20 brass, but that is only calculation.

    Do you find that the 5.6x50R loads easily with the unaltered block feed ramp? I did with an early rimfire, but I have heard it suggested that with some Cadet actions there may be difficulties. It is surely one of the best rounds for the Cadet, especially in Scotland, where some of our most interesting and available shooting is for the 60lb. roe deer, and we have a 2450ft./sec. velocity requirement. But I am reluctant to weaken the block on any small Martini.

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