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    Now I see a separated black among the gray powder. Did I miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgundrums View Post
    Now I see a separated black among the gray powder. Did I miss something?
    Hi Mr Shotgundrums
    The Gunmetal coating, (Powdered version) does have various materials in it that simply do not dissolve in solvent mixture.
    What you observed is quite normal
    Before applying it to coat, if you had not mixed up diluted mixture well, , I would expect such problem.
    Every component has a part to play with finished coat working as it should and should be applied to alloys during coating/tumbling process.
    You should not have thrown out diluted mixture. If you kept it, and added a little liquid catalyst to it, you could have seen results. If that improved things, then it was a simple case of not pre-mixing original mixture well before coating.
    Every component in the mix should set things correctly without extra catalyst.
    Adding a little extra catalyst would not hurt at all, as excess simply gasses off during bake.
    Please try mixture again, and let me know how you went.

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    I took some pics. I looked through my others: ZG, RC, BC, CAR... Those didn't seem to have separate(d) stuff like this. I'll stir and shake up this Texas Tea again and make a new batch. And coat Bullets and report results when time permits.
    Thx, Joe
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    I had a look, last night, at the 5 different test samples of Texas Tea I have in the shed. All have the white and black dots in them. The white appears to be catalyst. I mix 20gms to 100 ml MEK. shake the hell out of it. let sit for 1 hour and them shake like buggery again. you can see the difference between when it is first mixed (like grains of sand in the bottle) to when it has let react for an hour and shook (no grains of sand in the mix) it smoothes out.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Well alrighty. Ill give it another try. Thx man!

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    Question for you more experienced users of the Hi-TEK coating, are there any issues intermixing the powder version and the liquid version? I have some liquid I need to finish up and was wondering if I could apply a 3rd coat of liquid over 2 coats of powder? The 2 coats of the powder are passing the smash and wipe tests just fine; the color is brick red. Thanks.

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    Yep. no worries.
    I do this all the time when testing new colours in the powder.
    2 coats of the powder. Once tested and photographed, they then get 2 coats of liquid Black to cover the colour.
    4 coats in total with zero smash off. pass all tests.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa View Post
    Question for you more experienced users of the Hi-TEK coating, are there any issues intermixing the powder version and the liquid version? I have some liquid I need to finish up and was wondering if I could apply a 3rd coat of liquid over 2 coats of powder? The 2 coats of the powder are passing the smash and wipe tests just fine; the color is brick red. Thanks.
    Good question dsa.
    The liquid and powders all interchangeable, and will bond to each baked on coatings.
    Some, have mixed up solvent based coatings, with catalyst and dilution solvent, and then also added powdered systems to the mix.
    They are all compatible, and no problems should happen.
    If you add powdered systems to diluted & catalysed liquid coatings, all that should happen is the brew will be darker with colour intensity, and may become too strong as single applied coating, and may dry much slower.
    Some coat with Red Copper, liquid, then coat with Black or Bronze made from powder, and so on.
    No problems at all, they should all work on top of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa View Post
    Question for you more experienced users of the Hi-TEK coating, are there any issues intermixing the powder version and the liquid version? I have some liquid I need to finish up and was wondering if I could apply a 3rd coat of liquid over 2 coats of powder? The 2 coats of the powder are passing the smash and wipe tests just fine; the color is brick red. Thanks.
    Would the same apply with mixing two different powder versions (Say his brick red and hard bronze) etc. prior to mixing with acetone? Or after for that matter?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoFireman View Post
    Would the same apply with mixing two different powder versions (Say his brick red and hard bronze) etc. prior to mixing with acetone? Or after for that matter?

    Thanks.
    20 grams is 20 grams. Should work just the same.
    20g/100ml

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    Make no difference.

    I often combine small amounts of different coatings. Powder and liquid after mixing with acetone, powder and powder before mixing.
    To try custom colours, try 5gms of gold with 15gms of other colours. It all works.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Make no difference.

    I often combine small amounts of different coatings. Powder and liquid after mixing with acetone, powder and powder before mixing.
    To try custom colours, try 5gms of gold with 15gms of other colours. It all works.

    Sounds like Trev is a bit of a BC Artist Joe!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin460 View Post
    Sounds like Trev is a bit of a BC Artist Joe!!!!

    Is that a Typo, Grem???? Joe would say a BS artist....
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Is that a Typo, Grem???? Joe would say a BS artist....

    NOOOO, I would not say that at all.....

    I must concede, that with mad scientist Ausglock, his encouragement/demands, with developing new coatings, coupled with US and other places for different products, spurred me to continue to develop range.
    With BS matters, may be there is an element of input there, but am happy to cop it and put up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    NOOOO, I would not say that at all.....

    I must concede, that with mad scientist Ausglock, his encouragement/demands, with developing new coatings, coupled with US and other places for different products, spurred me to continue to develop range.
    With BS matters, may be there is an element of input there, but am happy to cop it and put up with it.
    That's a YES then?
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    David from CBE Cast bullet engineering here in AU has been very helpful.

    I now have a new TC 358 Brass 4 cav on its way, with the Loobe groove removed and the BB removed at NO EXTRA CHARGE... something other mold makers should take note on, especially LEE who quoted ridiculous figures for the job...
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    Asked him to make me some machine casting molds.
    He wouldn't do it.
    So, He lost my business.
    So much for supporting Aussie businesses...
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Joe, Trev,
    the Texas Tea 2nd round was successful. I stirred the whole container and broke up all the pockets of separated components, new Bullets are more black as well.
    HiTek Bullet porn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgundrums View Post
    Joe, Trev,
    the Texas Tea 2nd round was successful. I stirred the whole container and broke up all the pockets of separated components, new Bullets are more black as well.
    HiTek Bullet porn?
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    Great news.
    You are right, they are all very pretty. Porn ????, may be,... depends on how you look at them...

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    Good stuff.
    I have just coated and baked with some OLD GOLD that was mixed back in March this year. This was the powder.
    It has been sitting on the bench. Worked 100% fine.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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