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Thread: name 3 cartridges you wish you had firearms for.

  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkMike View Post
    Ok, Way back on page 2, I showed a pic of the mystery cartridge that I was holding. The guesses were a bit on the small size though.

    No it's not a 10Ga nor a 700 or even a 600. The 577 T-rex is a whimp!

    That is a 4 bore Cartridge. That's a hole in the pipe just over one inch. 120 grains of Blue Dot will roll the round ball out at 1750 fps and 9414 of energy.
    16 drams of FG or FFG (440 grns) is a bit less than the Bue Dot.


    The cool factor is that these rifles are from the 1870-80's and are still the largest shoulder fired guns around short of a 2 bore punt gun. (Those weren't shoulder fired though)


    A few custom gunmakers have produced 2 bore shoulder guns recently, although it would be hard to see a logical reason until somebody invents a bigger elephant. Or if the owner has a preoccupation with the size of something completely different. Punt guns were larger still, up to around 2in. bore, but they weren't shoulder fired. They were supported either by a spring trunnion device or breeching ropes around the stem of the punt. The nearest some came to the shoulder was a sort of hinged wooden spade under the shooter's chest.

    Back in the muzzle-loading days, when one shot was all you were liable to get, the 2 bore for African game had some point. But Sir Samuel Baker, the only person I heard of using one for practical reasons, heartily regretted it and said he never shot as well with anything after using them.

    A four bore, by contrast, was fairly manageable if it had the weight of a heavy double. When something monstrous is coming at you, recoil ceases to preoccupy you. They were largely supplanted, though, by double 8 bores, both rifled and smoothbore. Some of the early ones were also very heavy, but they came down enough in weight, with moderate loads, to be quite comfortable to shoot, and even the smoothbores gave groups that would be considered good with modern shotgun slugs.

    So number one in my choice would be an 8 bore hammer rifle, chambered for the brass cases. The greatest strength is produced with back action locks and the rotary underlever locking system.

    Second is one so rare I have never even seen detailed dimensions. There was a .30/.310 round, and the measurement of some Cadet cases I have suggests that it was simply a .308 inside lubed or jacketed bullet loaded into that case, for an appropriate bored barrel. It is also on the British government's list of freely ownable antiques, if it was made up to 1939, which I am sure they all were... if there actually ever were any. I enjoy telling the police "No, I don't need a licence to acquire it. I already have it. I just want a licence, on account of being law-abiding, to shoot it. N0, I don't need a licence to buy cartridges..." They are pretty used to that from me, but it sharpens them up and improves the breed.

    Third is nothing very out of the ordinary. Just a .303 sporting rifle built on the early Long Lee-Enfield rifle which never had a charger guide, to the standard early twentieth century British gunmakers made them. Or a barrel blank and derelict action to make my own.

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    338 Lapua
    338 Federal
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    Gyro Jet. Pistol or carbine.
    38 Tround
    7mm Nambu in a Baby Nambu.
    I like strange stuff.

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    .30 carbine in a revolver
    10 ga, just because I have never owned one.
    "A gentleman will seldom, if ever, need a pistol. However, if he does,he needs it very badly!" Sir Winston Churchill

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    At the gun show yesterday I saw two 99's in 284 on different tables, but within 15 feet. The less expensive one could probably be bargained down to under $1200 but I need a new cartridge like I need a lobotomy.
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    50bmg would be fun but 338 lapua is going to be cheaper to reload... and do I need something that can stop a vehicle? 338 uses about 1/3 the powder of a 50bmg.

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    Here is my list, with comments:
    1. .338 Federal (In an AR-10, 20" barrel)
    2. 45-70 (in Marlin 1895 lever action)
    3. 45 Long Colt in the Ruger Vaquero. I know little about revolvers, but every Ruger rifle I have bought has been an outstanding value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear67 View Post
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    .30 carbine in a revolver
    10 ga, just because I have never owned one.
    I have an 8-gauge slug, but unfortunately, no firearm for it...

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    358 winchester
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    I see a lot of 358 Winchesters in the list , some maker should jump on that and make it a factory chambering in a bolt action rifle so that we can all buy them really doesn't seem like it should be all that hard
    Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 02-24-2015 at 01:47 AM.

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    327 mag in revolver and lever rifle
    45 Colt in same
    480 Ruger in lever rifle (have the revolver)
    already have 22 Hornet in revolver and rifle or I would want that too.

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    Cz 527 in 221 fireball
    Marlin 336 in either 375 Win or 38-55

    Both would need wood stocks with good figure...
    Sometimes I think we make things harder than they have to be

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    A drilling in 20 gauge, 32WCF and 50/70

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3leggedturtle View Post
    A drilling in 20 gauge, 32WCF and 50/70
    i suffer from reoccurring drilling fever.
    came very close to purchasing a 30-06 over sxs 12 gauge.
    $$$$'s prevented me from the transaction.

    The lazy do not roast any game... but the diligent feed on the riches of the HUNT!! Proverbs 12:27

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    8 gauge
    20x138mm
    30x173mm

    I recall a moron telling me 30 years ago "they don't make 8 gauge shotguns!" You can make a 2-gauge if you want.. he didn't understand.

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    How about:
    .218 Mashburn Bee
    .219 Donaldson Wasp
    .220 Weatherby Rocket
    .221 Remington Fireball
    .222 Remington Rimmed
    .223 Winchester Super Short Magnum
    .224 Clark
    .225 Winchester
    .226 JDJ

    I know that is more than three but that gives me a numerical set. I could have left out the .222 and .223 because I have something in those numbers but the two included are different and we can't have to many calibers because each new one means more molds, dies, recipies, etc. in other words more fun.
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    S. G. G. = Sons of the Greatest Generation. Too old to run, too proud to hide; we will stand our ground and take as many as we can with us!

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    22 Hornet, 28-30 Stevens, 300 AAC

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    These would be my picks

    375 H&H ..model 70 win
    405 Winchester..model 95 win
    454...Ruger super redhawk

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    Shame being limited to 3 but ok
    220 Swift always wanted one
    358 Win best cast boolit cal
    38/55 Win Hi-Wall next best cast boolit cal

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    .260 Rem
    6MM BR
    .300 BO.

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    .300 H&H
    .30 US
    .44 Special

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