Someone has to ask/ Ebola--How concerned are we ??

[Wise Owl]

Thanks Charlie for the article. I just posted it over on the new ebola thread at tb2k. Not sure if it is up there yet on their main thread but it needs to get circulated. New Jersey could be new hot spot.

(stupid woman, really stupid woman even if she IS a doctor)

[popper]

B.J.; just don't pick up hitchers in OK on 69/75, unless you got though Huntsville - 45.
"this is a really hard illness to get" - but the protocol that was 'suspected' to fail was unsuiting from the bunny suit? Jenkins is a 'jerk' who gets involved in everything visible. No one is speaking of the Omaha case. Been in a different hospital since last Tues, staff here indicated getting a lot of resumes from Presby. So our troops will get a bleach transfusion & shower when they come back?

[montana_charlie]

(stupid woman, really stupid woman even if she IS a doctor)

She may think that as long as she stays in the car, she is still quarantined.
But, the companions in the car with her should ALSO be disallowed from public contact ... yet, one of them went into the restaurant to pick up their order.

I saw no indication that those companions have been identified and quarantined ...

CM

[thebigmac]

She may think that as long as she stays in the car, she is still quarantined.
But, the companions in the car with her should ALSO be disallowed from public contact ... yet, one of them went into the restaurant to pick up their order.

I saw no indication that those companions have been identified and quarantined ...

CM

Julie; I have spent the last hour reading ALL 244 posts from members who have shown an interest about this case.

I personally want to THANK YOU for all you have posted. All members reading this should feel as I do, that is, glad to have Julie on our membership roles.

THANKS AGAIN

thebigmac

[Wise Owl]

(Julie says thanks and blushes. Just want to help keep people informed who we care about. You all are family. K?
Now back to the news from Dallas)

CDC confirms second US Ebola case


By Kyle Balluck - 10/12/14 04:07 PM EDT
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...-us-ebola-case

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Sunday
confirmed test results showing that a healthcare worker in Dallas has
contracted the deadly Ebola virus.

The unidentified healthcare worker treated Thomas Eric Duncan, who
died in Dallas last week. The worker, who remains isolated, was
self-monitoring for fever and symptoms.“This development is
understandably disturbing news for the patient, the patient’s family and
colleagues and the greater Dallas community,” the CDC said in a
statement.

“The CDC and the Texas Department of State Health Services
remain confident that wider spread in the community can be prevented
with proper public health measures, including ongoing contact tracing,
health monitoring among those known to have been in contact with the
index patient, and immediate isolations if symptoms develop.

“Careful monitoring of all health care workers who had interaction with
the index patient and this second patient is warranted, including those
who cared for the index patient between the time he was isolated in the
hospital September 28 through the time of his death on October 8, and
they will now be considered patient contacts for follow-up
monitoring,” the CDC added.

One close contact of the healthcare worker has been identified and is
being monitored, the CDC said.

[Wise Owl]

Possible ebola patient in Braintree, MA. That's just south of Boston.

Officials quarantine Braintree medical facility,
isolate with possible Ebola protocol



By Jennifer Smith
Globe Correspondent
October 12, 2014
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...VgK/story.html

Harvard Vanguard Medical Center in Braintree is being quarantined and
a patient isolated outside the facility with a possible case of Ebola,
officials said.

“Ebola protocol is in place,” said Joe Zanca of Braintree Fire Department.
“We don’t know if he actually has Ebola.”

William Cash, also a Braintree firefighter, said “no one is leaving.”

The patient recently traveled to West Africa, and is being isolated based
on his medical complaints, fire officials said.

Police, fire officials, and emergency medical services responded to the
scene, along with a hazmat team, Zanca said.

Rushlau can be reached at katherine.rushlau@globe.com.
Follow her on Twitter @katyrushlau

[Wise Owl]

So, after reading a bit more, the possible in Braintree, MA is in isolation outside the medical center. Maybe an ambulance till they get results back on tests? That's what I am getting out of listening to the chatter on tb2k and the links they provide. I will update if I see anything new on this one.
Most of the other suspected cases have proven not to be infected but it can happen. We have proof of that with Duncan dying in Dallas. Need to shut down air traffic from West Africa and seal the southern border up. NOW.

[Wise Owl]

From tb2k and a member watching CNN. Apparently a protest was going on outside the hospital in Dallas.
Also mentioned that the patient in Braintree was transferred to Beth Israel Hospital. Not sure where that is at present.

Anyway, here is what was reported that the nurses were saying in Dallas.

CNN getting ready to interview nurses holding signs

host said they are saying don't blame us for not following protocol when there is no protocol


COMING UP NEXT


Looks like they are having a protest of some type



Just said they have moved the boston patient to another hospital ...beth Israel or something




The nurses are saying they are asking for training..not being given information....not told how to handle waste....saying then when they are infected they are blaming them



They are being asked to risk their lives caring for these patients without the proper training, equipment and information to do this. Been asking for training for a couple months and are not getting it.

[Wise Owl]

A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being taken to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, according to Harvard Vanguard Medical Associates.

Emergency workers were on the scene at Harvard Vanguard Medical Associates in Braintree after unconfirmed reports that a patient had been isolated, a Braintree fire department official told Boston.com.

According to Harvard Vanguard, the patient had recently traveled to Liberia and came to the facility complaining of headache and muscle aches.

Joe Zanca of Braintree Fire told The Boston Globe “Ebola protocol is in place.”

Zanca toldThe Boston Herald that the urgent care offices on Grossman Drive were quarantined after the patient turned up at 1:30 p.m. Sunday. Harvard Vanguard reports that the facility was closed briefly but is now re-opened.

John Monahan of Fox 25 reports that the patient came to the facility to refill a prescription. He then reportedly returned to his car before clinic staff ran out after him to prevent him from leaving.

According to The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, symptoms of Ebola include fever, muscle pain, weakness, vomiting, stomach pain, unexplained bleeding, severe headache and diarrhea.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...wtN/story.html

[Wise Owl]

Here is how the transmission happened:

http://nypost.com/2014/10/11/the-ago...ebola-patient/

Finally, at 2 p.m. on Sept. 30, doctors received the confirmation that all had been dreading: “Patient has tested positive for Ebola…” The staff attending to Duncan traded their gowns and scrubs for hazmat suits and attendants would scrub the room with bleach.

This was AFTER 40+ hours of nursing care, since he was hospitalized on the 28th.

[Wise Owl]

Steve Campion ‏@SteveABC13 2m2 minutes ago

"Danger do not enter" tape put up in front of #Dallas apartment building of infected #Ebola healthcare worker. #mapit
Dallas, TX

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[Wise Owl]

(have to try to get some sleep now. Please if you see any news, post it for everyone. Thanks)

I will update early tomorrow with any new developements but I think there are probably more ebola positives being held in isolation than they are telling us about. That slip in the Dallas new conference this morning about them monitoring 18 or 19 "patients" sealed that for me, plus that they have dedicated their whole 24 bed ICU to ebola cases.

Prayers up tonight for all of us again.

[MaryB]

Saw a report online that diseased illegals caught crossing the border are disappearing. Our government is hiding something bad.

[Wise Owl]

Saw a report online that diseased illegals caught crossing the border are disappearing. Our government is hiding something bad.

This gov is always trying to hide something bad.

Not much new news today. Waiting for someone else to be infected at this point. Seeing as they have around 70 people that they are monitoring I would guess there would be a few popping up soon. Will update when I see anything.

I think the only reason we know about the nurse is that the state of Texas broke the news. I think the CDC would rather that not have happened.

[Wise Owl]

Man at Beth Israel Hospital in Boston deemed unlikely to have ebola but is being monitored just in case. Full story at this link. (had trouble with my browser trying to copy it.)

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...VgK/story.html

[Blacksmith]

At the CDC news conference today they kept referring to monitoring 48 people who had contact with Mr. Duncan and were at risk. What they don't count are the healthcare workers who are supposedly "Self Monitoring" so what is the true number of people with possible exposure to this deadly virus? How many are walking around the streets of Dallas or other cities?

At least another week until the first people exposed are in the clear then you have at least three weeks after the last person exposed to this nurse when she reaches the point where she is no longer contagious, either cured (hopefully) or dead. That assumes no one else contracts the disease.

[ShooterAZ]

I just read on CNN that the CDC has stated it will not be "surprised" if other healthcare workers in Dallas come down with the virus.

[Recluse]

I have to drive threw Dallas tomorrow. Ooooooooooo. Im sooo scared.

You may be 21 and married, kid, but you have a helluva lot of growing up to do.

In the meantime, you might want to seriously think about changing that Mark Twain quote in your signature as it pretty much gives you carte blanche to argue with most anyone you meet right now.

[Wise Owl]

Ok, now we have one being quarantined in Portland Maine. This is getting entirely too close to home. No word on "why" he is being detained other than symptoms.


S CENTER) -- Maine Medical Center said Monday that the CDC has asked the hospital to hold a patient for observation as a precautionary step. Maine Medical Center said it is not a confirmed case of Ebola.

Maine Medical Center said it is following World Health Organization guidelines in the case. The policies represent the strictest standards of care. Maine Medical Center said staff is also using a higher level of protective apparel than the CDC recommends.

In an interview earlier this month, the head of the Emergency Room at Maine Med said he was confident in the hospital screening and procedures related to Ebola.

"We are absolutely prepared. If (someone) came in here, we have screening criteria in place and a very good communication method. That patient would be captured when they came in the door and from there go to an isolation room", said Dr. Michael Baumann, Chief of Emergency Medicine at Maine Medical Center.

The Maine CDC began preparing the state's medical facilities for the possibility of Ebola cases in August. It sent out screening tools, checklists and questions to ask of patients showing any symptoms of the virus, including their recent travel history.

This was in the email so apparently the news came from WCSH6 tv.
Below is procedures for isolating patients.
http://www.wcsh6.com/story/news/loca...ures/16667745/

[smokeywolf]

Heard tonight on KFI AM 640 that the U.S. State Department has put out a request for bids to supply 160,000 hazmat suits. Assuming that a hospital might go through 3 or 4 suits per person per shift, a hospital could easily go through 60 or more suits per day. That would cover about 30 hospitals for a period of around 90 days.

smokeywolf