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    MVA scopes

    I am considering a MVA malcom style scope and long range mounts for a rifle and would like any input thoughts, Ideas, experiences with these scopes and mounts. Rifle is going to be a 40-65 win CPA with 30" barrel. I need to get to 600 yds reliably with BP loads. Any and all info will be greatly appreciated. Thank-you all in advace

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    Boolit Grand Master Don McDowell's Avatar
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    The 23 inch scope with the sillouette mounts should serve just fine. Or go with the creedmoor mounts if you think at some point you'll want to stretch things out a bit.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    I bought this one about 10 years ago.

    I used it on two different 45 2.6's I had, one a Shiloh Sharps and the other the rifle shown in the picture, a 1878 Borschardt. I had both rilfles drilled and taped so I only had to unscrew the bases and switch them and then dial in the adjustments for that particular rifle.

    It was my first mildot scope and I loved it and used it in our local 1000 yard gong shoot in Burns Oregon.

    It belongs to my son now, I gave it to him when he returned home from Iraq as a USMC veteran.

    Great scope, but it was not gas filled thus only waterproofed by the orings.

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    It's like Ford or Chevy...pick the one you like. They will all work.

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    I was going to buy one last spring. But was told by MVA it would be at minimum two months wait to get the scope and would probably be more like four or more months due to their large backorder. As I needed the scope for this year's competition I went with the DZA scope rings and scope package from Buffalo Arms as I could get that much sooner. The MVA folks were very pleasant and above board on the wait time, so I in no way hold that against them, if I could have afforded to wait for the scope I would have ordered it from them. Everyone I know that has one recommends the 28" scope with the Silhouette rear mount.

    I was very impressed with MVA's honesty, knowledge, and their courtesy when I talked to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by country gent View Post
    I am considering a MVA malcom style scope and long range mounts for a rifle and would like any input thoughts, Ideas, experiences with these scopes and mounts. Rifle is going to be a 40-65 win CPA with 30" barrel. I need to get to 600 yds reliably with BP loads. Any and all info will be greatly appreciated. Thank-you all in advace

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    Another + for MVA. I got the Mil dot scope and have been really happy with it. Mine is on a 40-65 Ballard and a Highwall. When the eyes get to the point that you can't pick up the silhouettes anymore, missing is only fun for a short period of time.

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    I would go with the 23in MVA

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    I got lucky - JonK (4 posts up) found me a 28" with the Creedmoor mounts for a good price. And he drilled and tapped my Sharps to mount it.

    Once I get used to using it I'm going to really like it. Shot it for the first time last weekend at our BPCR match and I'm still not used to pulling the scope back after every shot, but I'll get there. Sure is nice being able to perfectly see the target for once!

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    I see the reticles for the MVA scopes are also sold seperatly One comes with the scope but are they easily interchanged?

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    Yes, easy swap, but not in the B-5 scope.

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    I bought the MVA B5 recently and am really happy with it so far. My shooting partner lent me a MVA 30" with the Malcolm style mounts, and even though the optics are great and the mounts well made, I couldn't get used to the Malcolm mounts. The B5 has Unertl style mounts and, at least for me, are much easier to use, in addition the centerline of the B5 is almost 1/2" lower than the Malcolm style scopes, and at 16" versus 30", plus the extra weight at the end of the barrel, the B5 was my choice. I asked if it was possible to buy the 23" MVA scope with the Unertl mounts, but it was a no go.

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    While it is in fact an added expense it is not an unheard of thing to replace the MVA rear mount with the DZ Arms Unertl mount.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    How very odd, I just picked up my MVA 23 inch scope at Big Whiskey at the Shiloh Match Sunday with Unertl mounts installed on it and 4 special blocks one for Silhouette Distances, and 1 for 800 yards, 1 for 900 yards and 1 for 1000 yards. These blocks will allow the tube to be more centered in the mount while shooting.

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    I wish MVA would update their web site to at least include the Winchester scope.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    I know Don,

    He is a busy guy though thats for sure, I love those Unertl mounts and with no clicks they be legal for Silhouette and Long Range woot woot! Just wish I had more time to wring em out so I could use em next weekend at Raton.

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    I have a MVA 28" scope. I have had it now for six years?? Really forgot when I did get it and it is a very good scope but it's the Creedmoor mounts I have a problem with. For fine adjustments it just plain sucks! I cannot see the hash marks and at long range if I don't use a magnifying glass and feel the backlash take up it's hard for me to make a fine adjustment without going off the edge of a 4' wide target frame at long range. I been fighting switching over to a scope from the tang sights because my eyes are failing but if you can’t see the graduations on the sight mounts what good is the scope. I only use the scope set for one range for developing loads. For using it in a Match it's useless for me.
    When I ask other users how they get along with these mounts most say by feel; I can’t see the adjustments either and it costs me a lot of bad shots.
    The DZ mounts I think would a big plus with this scope.

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    Kenny I like those MVA Unertl mounts that came with the B5. Altho I'm not convinced they work for the long range stuff without a bit of poking around with the bases? But as is on the 22 Carol is really glad we picked that thing up. Using the 7.2 centers on the bases those marks on are just exactly 1 minute with the SK 22 ammo.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    Kurt I believe Micheal Jackson is running the DZ mounts on his MVA, and doing quite well with the set up on both the 22 and the creedmoor guns.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    I have progressive lens in my glasses, been shooting the scope since 2005 in competition, I have no problem staying on target or dialing in. Though in fast changing conditions the use fo the mil-dots have been invaluable.

    Elevation is easy with the 23 inch scope and my Creedmoor Mounts, 3 tick marks is a MOA, same for elevation and Windage. For back lash I go up past a couple and return back. Much the same as I would with Irons.

    KW
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    Don,

    I had a chance to handle a scope with the DZ mounts and I will get a set ordered when I get back from my hunt.
    This winter I will make use of my Whittington range membership and get my settings worked out the two or three week stay I will be there.

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