You have to love the ebay scammers selling for more than new price

[Love Life]

You should feel very bad. You knew the item was worth more, yet you did not inform the seller and pay the full value.

Evil, scammer, terrible...

In reality I don't care how you felt. It can be looked at from both sides. Some would call you a scammer for walking out with that sweet deal. I, personally, would give you a high five.

What I am pointing out is everybody sits high and mighty when they have to pay full retail or beyond for something, but they have no problems giving their friends a fist bump when they get a score at well below the actual value of an item.

Everybody loves the free market when the pendulum swings in their favor, but cry foul when it does not.

So who is the bad guy? The one who chuckles over getting a super deal, and then posts here to recieve virtual high fives? Or would it be the guy who listed an item for a stupendous price and some doofus, who has to remind himself to breath, actually bought it?

It's all good to me and I see nobody being a scammer or gouger. A douchebag, yes. A scammer or gouger? No. In times like these a thesaurus can be a big help.

[jcwit]

You should feel very bad. You knew the item was worth more, yet you did not inform the seller and pay the full value.

Evil, scammer, terrible...

In reality I don't care how you felt. It can be looked at from both sides. Some would call you a scammer for walking out with that sweet deal. I, personally, would give you a high five.

What I am pointing out is everybody sits high and mighty when they have to pay full retail or beyond for something, but they have no problems giving their friends a fist bump when they get a score at well below the actual value of an item.

Everybody loves the free market when the pendulum swings in their favor, but cry foul when it does not.

So who is the bad guy? The one who chuckles over getting a super deal, and then posts here to recieve virtual high fives? Or would it be the guy who listed an item for a stupendous price and some doofus, who has to remind himself to breath, actually bought it?

It's all good to me and I see nobody being a scammer or gouger. A douchebag, yes. A scammer or gouger? No. In times like these a thesaurus can be a big help.

Reread my post. States I double checked with the manager to be sure there was not an error. Heck, I even stoped in yesterday to be proof positive there was no misunderstanding, not much more I could do, and I'm sure happy with the deal I got and the shop seems happy to have sold it.

[starmac]

Most of the time if I come across a good deal, I will jump on it, but there are exceptions to everything. A couple of years ago I stopped at a garage sale, there were two older ladies selling off the belongings of a couple that had died off. The guy ran a shop for some 40 years. I ask them how much for a set of nice welding leads, and the lady told me 5 bucks. I told her that I couldn't do that as much as I would like too, but I would give 50 bucks and be happy. This was the tail end of a sale that had been going on for a month, they had already sold his service truck, winch truck, welders, sawmill, and most everything else. The ladys told me they knew absolutely nothing as far as what his tools had been worth, and wished I had come along earlier to have helped them price stuff.

[Love Life]

Reread my post. States I double checked with the manager to be sure there was not an error. Heck, I even stoped in yesterday to be proof positive there was no misunderstanding, not much more I could do, and I'm sure happy with the deal I got and the shop seems happy to have sold it.

I don't need to reread your post. I am speaking in generalities here. Kind of a bummer when the shoe is on the other foot, and people look at the guys getting good deals as 'Sharks' huh?

It goes both ways, and when people come to realize that, then all these "OH MY GOD!!!! YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT SOME EVIL/ SCAMMER/GOUGER/MEANIE SOLD SOMETHING FOR. RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!" threads can stop.

Myself, and others have tried to explain a free market so many times it is bordering on preposterous. People fail to grasp it because they have been raised in a world of socialism.

I hope, I fervently hope, that by presenting both sides of the coin I have caused a few light bulbs to go off.

You are scammer guy for buying low, and people are scammer guy for charging what they believe an item is worth. The world continues to go round and round...

[roberto mervicini]

I use e-bay occasionally, if the price suit me and if the ship/handling charges reasonable, no one force me to buy, so I do not get upset if the price is exorbitant I pass. On the other hand if I really want something and that is the only way I am able to get it, then I don't make a fuss and do my best to buy it.

[jmorris]

A fool and his money are soon parted. This should be eBay's motto.

No, they are a Liberal outfit, it would be closer to.

"It's sad that a fool and his money are soon parted but at least we get 10%."

[otter5555]

i hate gougers, but the last time i looked no one made me bid on an ebay item

[jcwit]

You are scammer guy for buying low, and people are scammer guy for charging what they believe an item is worth. The world continues to go round and round...

So I'm a scammer guy for questioning whether the price was correct at the time of sale, then going back 3 days later and rechecking with the manager to be sure the price I was quoted and paid was correct. Unbelievable!

Your logic fails to impress me, nor is it comprehensible.

This pawn broker is far from a small mom & pop operation. They have locations from Florida to No. Indiana. I suppose I'm also a scammer for buying a like new Winchester 94 30/30 from them last fall for $175.00 out the door also.

Question? Would you have done the same?

[Love Life]

Aha!!!! Now you see!!

The logic of the people crying foul on the guys selling for high prices fails to impress me and it is not comprehensible. I would even go so far as to say it is illogical.

Much as me calling you a scamming shark for buying low would be illogical.

One question to you though. Did you inform the seller that his item was actually worth $2,500.00 before you paid for it?

Point proved.

Now to your question of me. Heck yeah you got a deal, and if you reference my previous post (which you actually quoted to reply to) I would give you a high five for the deal you scored. Doesn't matter if the guy knew the value, and listed low, or if the guy was an idiot and listed low. You got a heck of a deal, and good deals deserve high fives.

However; were I not such a big fan of the free market, scoring deals, and making money, and if I used EMOTION to deal with every situation in life, then I would call you a lowlife, scum sucking shark.

Much like people call other people who sell for high prices low life, scum sucking sharks.

I made a statement concerning buying low, and not feeling bad. You made it personal. Your problem really, and not mine. I did not come here to insult you, nor have I. I just pointed out the other side of the coin at buying low.

Thank you for playing along though.

[jcwit]

One question to you though. Did you inform the seller that his item was actually worth $2,500.00 before you paid for it?

Point proved.

Now to your question of me. Heck yeah you got a deal, and if you reference my previous post (which you actually quoted to reply to) I would give you a high five for the deal you scored. Doesn't matter if the guy knew the value, and listed low, or if the guy was an idiot and listed low. You got a heck of a deal, and good deals deserve high fives.

No point proven at all, watch was not appraised till after the purchase at the time the T/H dealer replaced the battery.

Yesterday "Monday" the subject of pricing was brought up when I returned to the shop, and the manager did inform me the cost of the particular model I purchased if new would have been in the neighborhood of $3000.00 which was correct per the dealer, mine was decreased in value by $500.00 because of having been used.

I agree that I got a heck of a deal, and it is one reason I deal with this merchant. They've also given me extremely good deals on diamond jewelry for my wife, and misc. tools that I never would have spent the money for otherwise.

As far as outlandish pricing goes, Sam did not build his empire by overcharging, that is a fact.

[Love Life]

Who gives a flying rat's buttcheeks about Sam? He is not part of this conversation. Screw Sam.

What this conversation is about is a large portion of our society not understanding how a free market works. They are ready to grab pitch forks and lynch people for asking high prices on objects, but they wouldn't mention a daggone thing if somebody was priced way low. Whether on purpose or because they are dumb.

Is one more evil than the other? Are neither of them evil? Are they both the most nefarious of characters? The low buyer, and the high seller?

The most important thing I have gotten from this thread is: Don't be an idiot and life is much easier for you.

[FLHTC]

I was looking at a 1967, 396 4 speed Camaro SS and it was completely factory, garage kept and the VIN matched the color, motor and transmission. The gentleman wanted $33,000 for it and i thought of all the internet winners not wanting to pay extra for a box of ammo. Now here is a car that sold for a tad over three grand new and its now 46 years old and as much as a new Camaro. The seller must have been a scammer!

[jcwit]

Who gives a flying rat's buttcheeks about Sam? He is not part of this conversation. Screw Sam.

What this conversation is about is a large portion of our society not understanding how a free market works. They are ready to grab pitch forks and lynch people for asking high prices on objects, but they wouldn't mention a daggone thing if somebody was priced way low. Whether on purpose or because they are dumb.

Is one more evil than the other? Are neither of them evil? Are they both the most nefarious of characters? The low buyer, and the high seller?

The most important thing I have gotten from this thread is: Don't be an idiot and life is much easier for you.

WOW! Are we ever getting testy this afternoon.

Who cares about Sam? Well being as he started and grew the largest retail operation in the world it stands to reason he understood the operation of the free market you bring up and the fact of not screwing over his customers or gouging either. Thats why SAM is part of this conversation, such as it is.

[jcwit]

I was looking at a 1967, 396 4 speed Camaro SS and it was completely factory, garage kept and the VIN matched the color, motor and transmission. The gentleman wanted $33,000 for it and i thought of all the internet winners not wanting to pay extra for a box of ammo. Now here is a car that sold for a tad over three grand new and its now 46 years old and as much as a new Camaro. The seller must have been a scammer!

No! This is now a collector's item.

Nowhere near the same as buying ammo at a retail outlet for $20/$30 bucks a brick the putting it up for sale at $90/$100 bucks. Totally different. The ammo has no collectors value, the car does.

[starmac]

Will the ammo be worth more if we insist they make it in china??? lol

[jcwit]

Will the ammo be worth more if we insist they make it in china??? lol

Not Likely, hehe.

[Love Life]

WOW! Are we ever getting testy this afternoon.

Who cares about Sam? Well being as he started and grew the largest retail operation in the world it stands to reason he understood the operation of the free market you bring up and the fact of not screwing over his customers or gouging either. Thats why SAM is part of this conversation, such as it is.

Sam is part the conversation for you.

Not for me. How he did business was his business. How others do business is their business.

That is the point. How people do business is not the business of anybody else. Buy it or leave it. Don't label them as scammers, gougers, meanie faces, or any other buzzword for socialism that is getting thrown around this forum like it's cool.


I bet he (Sam) sold his products for more than he paid for them...

Gouging does not occur with wants. Gouging only occurs with necessities.

Let's turn the tables. Anybody who buys an item for less than the market or retail value is also a scammer. There. Fairness as put forth by the socialists.

[Remyvtr15]

ok...I gotta chime in here....
I've used EBAY since 2006 as VAIRSTANG... I have about 100 feedbacks..I'm not a business...I sell stuff I want to get rid of..like a yard sale..

But then there are things like autographed bats or other memorabilia(or car parts, or reloading equipt) that I don't want to lose my shirt on...so I set a price close to what I want out of it.

Why should I set my price low? If I set the price high, u can ignore it and go about yer biz...
It's mine. I'll set the price where I want to set it. Its up to the bidders to determine the worth.
Then it is up to me to make sure the buyer gets what he expects and to ship it protected and in a timely manner.

[jcwit]

Sam is part the conversation for you.

Not for me. How he did business was his business. How others do business is their business.

That is the point. How people do business is not the business of anybody else. Buy it or leave it. Don't label them as scammers, gougers, meanie faces, or any other buzzword for socialism that is getting thrown around this forum like it's cool.


I bet he (Sam) sold his products for more than he paid for them...

Gouging does not occur with wants. Gouging only occurs with necessities.

Let's turn the tables. Anybody who buys an item for less than the market or retail value is also a scammer. There. Fairness as put forth by the socialists.

OK, I give up, I'm a 69 year old disabled Vet. who did not run off to Canada, but proudly served my Country, has only ever missed 1 election and has never voted democratic. I've spent most of my working life in the retail business, many of them with my own successful business, and at no time did I overcharge or take advantage of any of my customers. There were even times I gave merchandise away for nothing so as to help someone or make someone happy.

I'm the type of guy that found a ladies wallet with a few thousand dollars in it and saw that it got returned to the rightful owner.

YUP! I'm the face of socialism.

Now, think as you wish and believe as you wish, but the above is the truth!

BTW, It was the socialists who were spitting at me and calling me a baby killer and other names while I made my way to the office in The Pentagon.

[Love Life]

I knew it (insert smilie face of choice here)!!!

Good for you on your business practices.

It is nobody's business if you charged fair prices, or if gouged the living daylights out of people. It is your business. Not my business, not Mr. Crybaby Pants' business, not Harry Reid's business, but YOUR business.

If you buy a sweet watch well below retail, then that is your business. Not my business, not Mr. Crybaby Pants' business, and not Harry Reid's business. It is YOUR business.

That is what I am getting at. It is people's choice (Freedom if you will) to sell fair, gouge the daylights out of people, sell below retail to help people out, sell below retail because they have to remind themselves to breath, etc.

To come and caller people scammers is a right, but it is the wrong word. Gouger is the wrong word.

The right thinig to say is "That d-bag is charging retarded prices" or something like that.

Once people can separate the two, things will be much better. If people would quit showing socialist tendencies, then they would not be labeled as such.

Good chat JCwit. We haven't been at each other for over a year.