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    Beretta leaving Maryland due to gun control laws!

    Beretta has announced that it will make good on it's vow to leave Maryland if restrictive gun control laws are passed.

    http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/0...-control-laws/

    It is heartening to see these companies making good on their promises to resist restrictive legislation! Hooray for Beretta!
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    Agreed.

    I wrote Beretta and let them know that as soon as they were out of the Socialists Republic of Maryland that I would personally celebrate by purchasing a brand new Beretta handgun.

    Also told them that if they relocated to Texas, I'd celebrate by purchasing TWO brand new Beretta handguns.

    Reckon' we'll see, eh?


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    Good news and common sense.

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    Excellent!! Maybe a lot more will follow them out the door of those states that don't appreciate their business.

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    The impact will be huge. I hope they go through with it. I might even buy me one of those new arx100 rifles!

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    Might have to buy a Beretta myself now when they relocate!

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    The South lost the Civil War because the North had all the big gun factories. Give it another five years and it'll be the other way around !
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    Not Exactally True

    Beretta isn't moving out of Maryland any time soon at best they won't expand in the state. Maryland gun owners aren't very happy with Beretta's Bluff and they won't be selling many guns in the state.

    From Beretta Blog
    "Prior to introduction of this legislation the three Beretta Holding companies located inMarylandwere experiencing growth in revenues and jobs and had begun expansion plans in factory and other operations. The idea now of investing additional funds inMarylandand thus rewarding a Government that has insulted our customers and our products is offensive to us so we will take steps to evaluate such investments in other States. At the same time, we will continue our current necessary operations within Maryland and we are thankful for and welcome the continued support of our employees as we do so."
    http://blog.berettausa.com/bid/29216...our-Gun-Rights

    Interview with Beretta management prior to the Governors signature.
    “The issue is under discussion,” Reh said. “We have a public statement prepared for when the Governor signs the bill.”

    The most likely scenario would keep the Beretta U.S.A. plant intact. This would allow for the fulfillment of the M9 contracts. It would also take care of their Maryland employees."
    http://www.guns.com/2013/04/16/as-ma...ough-decision/

    What Maryland gun owners think:
    "No Berettas for me.......ever."
    http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=119740
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    Seems like there just may be a chance there would be 49 other states to take up the slack of losing maryland. lol If they relocated to Texas, them old redneck Texans might just take up all the slack to spite maryland.

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    Well, I wont do it to SPITE Maryland, but if they move to Texas, I think we will have more firearms manufacturing capabilities than near any other state! And yep, I will support them wherever they move. I have been wanting an M-9, anyway.
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    Many companies in the anti-gun northern states are too heavily invested in where they are to just pull up & move immediately. There are union contracts etc that could cost them millions.
    But,,, they can & appear to be doing whatever they can to reduce that problem.
    Maintain current manufacturing where they are.
    Build a plant in a friendlier place w/o the restrictions they currently face.
    Once up & going, a new plant can assume manufacturing that has been in other places,, as the company can get out from under some restrictions. Or, putting it simply, they can downsize a plant over time to where they reduce their workforce (and taxes, jobs etc) w/o penalties they would face if they pulled out immediately.

    Basically, I think several gun related businesses are studying how to do this. A few started it years ago. (Ruger built a plant in AZ, and are looking at another place currently. Remington moved some of their stuff to NC.) It will take time & careful planning to avoid the loss of lots of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starmac View Post
    Seems like there just may be a chance there would be 49 other states to take up the slack of losing maryland. lol If they relocated to Texas, them old redneck Texans might just take up all the slack to spite maryland.
    If Beretta moves to Texas Maryland gun owners will buy Texas made Berettas they just won't buy Maryland made ones. They are mad because Beretta didn't have the stones to follow through on their threat to move when Governor OWEMally called their bluff. This will hurt any other state with a gun manufacturer who ever threatens to move because the state will look at Beretta and figure it's only bluffing.

    Beretta said they would move if they passed the law and a lot of Maryland gun people bought Beretta products to support them. Beretta didn't follow through so they left gun owners all over the country hanging out to dry. Don't say one thing and do another because that makes you a lying ----- in my book.
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    Just how quick are they supposed to move to make good on their threat? You can't just move a factory in a day.

    I would think support would be wiser than attack but what do I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    If Beretta moves to Texas Maryland gun owners will buy Texas made Berettas they just won't buy Maryland made ones. They are mad because Beretta didn't have the stones to follow through on their threat to move when Governor OWEMally called their bluff.
    Beretta has current contracts to produce the M9. They can't continue to do that if they shut down the main plant in Maryland. They said this in the interview ... before the legislation was passed.

    Beretta said they would move if they passed the law and a lot of Maryland gun people bought Beretta products to support them. Beretta didn't follow through so they left gun owners all over the country hanging out to dry. Don't say one thing and do another because that makes you a lying ----- in my book.
    They didn't say they would leave the state. They said they would change their plans to expand their facilities in Maryland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_charlie View Post
    They didn't say they would leave the state. They said they would change their plans to expand their facilities in Maryland.

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    Back before the law was passed they said they would LEAVE! I know all about moving manufacturing plants and current contracts and no one expects them to leave tomorrow. But before the law passed they said they would leave and now they say we won't expand production in Maryland, two very different things. It appears they have no plans of ever leaving one of the most anti gun states in the nation as long as the laws passed by the state let them continue to produce and sell to the rest of the country things that can't be sold to their own employees.

    Any doubts about this go to the Maryland Shooters Forum and search Beretta lots of threads and posts.
    http://www.mdshooters.com/forum.php?
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    If I recall correctly the law was just signed Friday by the Governor of MD.

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    Texas is doing its best to get new businesses. Liberals whine that we have a very lax regulatory policy. We see it as not trying to hound businesses out of existence. SpaceX, I believe it is, would love to locate down by Brownsville. The people down there are trying everything they can to make it happen. Hopefully, it will. Beretta would be more than welcome down here, and probably find the political climate and general climate much better than other places. Hopefully our State officials will pick up on this. Hmmmm. Maybe some of us Texicans on CastBoolits should contact some of our representatives. I think I will drop Jerry Patterson, our Land Commissioner an email. With him and our coyote shootin' Governor, we got some good people in Austin.
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    Utah is finally sending out invites to these gun manufactures in the form of tax incentives and lots of perks. I would love to see Beretta come to Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    Back before the law was passed they said they would LEAVE!

    Any doubts about this go to the Maryland Shooters Forum and search Beretta lots of threads and posts.
    http://www.mdshooters.com/forum.php?
    You can read all of the threads on gun forums, and you can read all kinds of 'reporting' from various 'news sites'.
    But all of that harkens back to the original story (published in February by The Washington Post) which was based upon an intrview with the CEO at Beretta.
    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...n-restrictions

    Read it for yourself, and post the words where Beretta 'promises to leave' Maryland.

    A lot of folks have 'interpreted' what they think Beretta has said. But if the words don't come from the mouth of somebody at Beretta, the words don't mean squat.

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