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Thread: Marlin lever action 45 lc

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    Marlin lever action 45 lc

    I purchased a Ruger Blackhawk 5.5" 45 lc last summer and have enjoyed shooting and working up cast loads...mild to sorta wild, I really enjoy this handgun.

    I feel in love with this caliber and have been looking for rifle since. They are not made any longer and I have found a few along the way but wow.... they must be made of gold !

    I recently found one out of state for a fair price and I'm waiting for it to come in.

    Do any of you have one and can you share any experience with it such as accuracy... how far would you use it for deer hunting and what loads do you find the best groups with and anything else you care to share ?

    I have 2 Marlins in 357 and a 336 in 30-30 I enjoy shooting and hunting with them .... great rifles.

    Any comments on the above ?

    Thanks for your replys

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmdracer View Post
    I purchased a Ruger Blackhawk 5.5" 45 lc last summer and have enjoyed shooting and working up cast loads...mild to sorta wild, I really enjoy this handgun.

    I feel in love with this caliber and have been looking for rifle since. They are not made any longer and I have found a few along the way but wow.... they must be made of gold !

    I recently found one out of state for a fair price and I'm waiting for it to come in.

    Do any of you have one and can you share any experience with it such as accuracy... how far would you use it for deer hunting and what loads do you find the best groups with and anything else you care to share ?

    I have 2 Marlins in 357 and a 336 in 30-30 I enjoy shooting and hunting with them .... great rifles.

    Any comments on the above ?

    Thanks for your replys

    Dave
    I have been looking for one myself, as I too love the .45 Colt caliber. I have found a fair number online but I do not want to spend what they are asking at this time. Your statement that they are not made any longer is really not correct. Henry, Uberti &, Rossi are still producing them and from my research, they appear to be very good guns. Marlin or Remlin as some refer to them now days, did stop production sometime last year but they say that they will start producing them again sometime late this year.

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    John,

    I should have said Marlin has not made them since somewhere around mid 90's... as I understand... but of course I could be wrong. I have not heard that Marlin will start making 45lc again ??

    Yes, I have looked at the "other" manfs. out there and was considering a Rossi since the Marlins out there are too pricey, for me !

    I decided to call Rossi to ask a few questions.... I waited for approx. 15 mins, and when the recording came back and asked to leave a voice message and they would get back ASAP, I did just that stating I was looking at buying one, etc...... I have never heard back from them so I decided to NOT buy a Rossi.... customer service became questionable in my mind !

    I know lots of folks love their Rossi's and have good results... not knocking them at all.

    I am an old fart so the eyes are not like the use to be so that was a lil negative for the Rossi, I need a scope !

    I have a 20" round barrel Marlin 1894 45 lc being shipped Friday, (just got the confirmation my check did not bounce too high and shipping is Friday) so I'm like a 61 yo kid at Christmas waiting till next week to "play"

    I'm glad I have a little patience and hopefully my reward will be next week sometime.

    Good luck in your search

    Dave

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    I have one down in the man cave.
    Shoots anything that I feed it.
    If you decide you have just got to shoot the "Ruger Only" bullet you will have to do some minor work.
    I changed out the ejector and changed the stop length on the cartridge lifter/carrier. Needed the extra length to eject a loaded round.
    Load it from mild to wild and have not had any problems.

    Tom

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    I have always been a Marlin fan and a 45 Colt fan. I bought a 45 Colt Cowboy several years ago,I admit to a weakness for single actions and rifles with octagon barrels. It shoots 255 LSWC's very well. I also shot my biggest buck,in fact the only deer I ever had mounted with it.
    I have seen a couple Rossi's with CCH that made me drool,but I would wait and pinch pennies and get the Marlin. And the reciever is allready tapped and threaded for a scope base.

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    Marlin made the 1894CB (24" octagon) until sometime in the mid 2000's I think. The one I have was made in 2000 and likes plinking loads with a 250Grain RNFP or deer loads consisting of the Lyman 452424 in front of a healthy dose of 2400.

    The plinkers out to 25yards are put the bead where you want a hole accurate. The Kieth bullet is also very accurate in my rifle.

    I haven't managed to kill a deer with mine yet, I always seem to have something else in my hands when I see Bambi's cousin.

    The one thing I did not like about the 1894CB was that it came with a full buckhorn rear sight and a very tall bead at the muzzle. I changed the rear to a flat topped Marbles sight, it is better (for me) but I think I will change both sights to get it more in line with my other Marlins;there is enough difference in line of sight to make a noticable change in cheek positioning when sighting the rifle.

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    Garcia... Thanks for the reply, I'm familiar with the modifications you speak of.

    You must have been shooting some "heavy" boolits to need the mod.

    Dmize... congrats on the buck, that's my plan too... big buck Not sure what CCH is on the Rossi ?


    Gunner... "Made them till mid 2000", was not aware of that, I was told mid 90's, Maybe when Marlin get's their act together they will make them again ! Seems to be a market...IDK ? ?
    This one is missing the iron sights but has a mount that will work for me, maybe I'll order some replacement sights eventually so it will be stock !

    Any more replys are appreciated.

    I'll try to post a pic that was sent to me



    Thanks all

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    My Marlin 1894 CB with the 24 inch octagon barrel is a great rifle. Took a couple hogs and a couple deer with it. Mine has a Williams receiver sight on it.
    I have loaded it hot. Tend not to do that now. Got a 45-70 that handles those duties.
    Mine loves largely on a diet of a 290 gr flat more group buy bullet over 10.5 gr o #105 surplus powder. Gives in the 1100 fps range, is very accurate, and I have no doubt it would be a great hunting load.

    The 24 inch barrel makes for better handling in my opinion. It swings like a shotgun so it is the gun I turn to if I need to track a deer.

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    I had a Marln 45 CB with the cut rifled barrel and it was an exceptionaly accurate gun with cast bullets. The gun would group under 2" at 100 yards with iron sights and at 50 yards cut one ragged hole. With top loads from the 24" barrel I was shootng a 250 grain bullet at 1800 fps and it WAS a der gun. Kinda like a baby 45-70. The only problem with the gun was case bulging and that was the way the chamber was cut.

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    Yeah, case bulging is an issue. Mine does it too. Case failures tend to be splits the length of the case. I can get 10 p
    Is loads per case so I don't fret over it too much, the brass isn't that expensive.

    I have shot 265 wfn bullets into the 1600 to 1700 fps range. I don't we that heavy a load anymore, decided I just don't need the speed.

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    dmdracer-
    I also have a 1894CB45 and it is GREAT. wait and find one of these. It is great for long range (I put a full buckhorn ladder sight on it).
    You should know that the trigger on mine sucks and the chamber is cut too big (the rifle is a starting point, like a ruger BH)
    If you have one of the 24" (1894cb45) then you can have the barrel cut and rechambered and still have a 22"ish barrel.
    Don't buy a microgroove barrel, they are great but foul fast, the 1894cb45 is a ballard cut barrel.

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    The .45 colt in a Marlin rifle or a Ruger Blackhawk is at the top of my "favorite list." Here is my .45 colt 1894 CB Limited (1 of a 1,000), a Ruger BH, and a Ruger Bisley Vaquero all in .45 colt. I shoot 250gr cast in all of them with good results ...
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    bigjeepman welcome to the forum! Looks like you are knee deep in .45 caliber fun. I have been reading this thread and it has me kinda wishing I had one of the Marlins. I warn you jeepman, this place will do that to a person. They are all a bunch on enablers. I guess that is what keeps me coming back.
    dmdracer I think you made a good buy on the Marlin. I have a few Marlins and I really like them. My .444 is a perfect woods deer rifle. I have thought I maybe shouldn't have, but several years ago (possibly 30?), I had my .444 cut down to 18.25". It is nice to carry in the rough stuff. The main problem with the short barrel is that it is not tall enough to sit in my gun rack like all the long guns are supposed to.

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    Wow, thanks to all that replied, I appreciate your sharing.

    I have a Mihec SAA 270 gr. w/ pins, I've have 2 good loads I've worked up for the Blackhawk, and as I said earlier... I love it ! These run around 900 fps and 1130 fps .... cast with the solids, .454", Alox lube, 290 gr. ...fast enough for me and good accuracy.

    I also have a 200 gr and 225 gr. group buy molds for the 1911, I have some loaded but have not tried them yet.

    I plan to use these same in this rifle and adjust as needed.... assume it will pkup. fps from the rifle.

    KCSO 2" groups @ 100 is good enough for me

    BTROJ Bulging huh... well good to know, I'll keep an eye on that .... brass is not that bad $$

    .45COLE I got the Tracking # this eve.... should have by next Tuesday, micro grove is ok, the other 3 Marlins are the same and they all shoot well.

    Jeepman Nice pic of some great "stuff" you have

    This will compliment my Ruger Blackhawk 5.5" ! well that's the plan anyway

    BTW Welcome to castboolits I like the "sig line" lot of truth it is

    I'll update once I get more "personal" with her

    Thanks all, I've enjoyed the conversation

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    Thanks guys ...

    I'm a Marlin guy and enjoy the ones I have a lot. Looking forward to reading/learning here ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45Cole View Post
    Don't buy a microgroove barrel, they are great but foul fast, the 1894cb45 is a ballard cut barrel.
    My .45 Colt Marlin 1894 has a round 20" microgroove barrel has at least 1000 of my cast bullets down it. I'd have to strongly disagree with your statement as I've had no fouling or leading problems to date.

    Quote Originally Posted by dmdracer View Post
    Wow, thanks to all that replied, I appreciate your sharing.

    I have a Mihec SAA 270 gr. w/ pins, I've have 2 good loads I've worked up for the Blackhawk, and as I said earlier... I love it ! These run around 900 fps and 1130 fps .... cast with the solids, .454", Alox lube, 290 gr. ...fast enough for me and good accuracy.
    Nice choice on your 1894, I am an oddball I guess as I prefer the round barrel over the octagon.

    The MP 270-SAA is my favorite bullet, its almost perfect I think. I got the solid mold they drop at ~285 gr. I size mine to .452 and lube with Carnuba Red. Loaded over 10 grains of Unique they are dead on with very little bullet drop at 100 yards.

    I've had zero issues with feeding, chambering, and ejecting with the 270-SAA.

    Your Marlin will love them!

    When you get the rifle I'd be interested to hear the specifics about it. There have been several 1894 .45 Colt 20" round barrel runs over the years.

    There was the original 1894S in 1993, there were 1000 made in that run.

    Around 2003 there was another run of round barrel .45 Colt 1894s for Big 5 Stores. They were fitted with Birch stocks and originally sold for $395.00. I can't recall 100% for sure but, I believe they were microgroove as opposed to balled rifled.

    (And for the sake of completeness but, not microgooved.)
    In 2009 another run was done for Cabela's however they were Walnut stocked and Ballard Rifled. Most of the Cabela's production was done at New Haven but, some have now surfaced taht have been produced in Ilion from left over New Haven parts. Easiest way to tell is to check the proof stamp on the barrel a "JM" on the left will be New Haven (Original Marlin Co.) production a "REP" on the right will be Iilon (Remington) production . Also check the serial number, the New Haven production guns start with 91-, Iilion, NY production starts with MR.

    My 1894 is none of these. It started out life as a pre-safety .44 Mag and I had it re barreled for .45 Colt with a factory Marlin microgroove barrel left over from the original 1993 1894S run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptar View Post
    In 2009 another run was done for Cabela's however they were Walnut stocked and Ballard Rifled. Most of the Cabela's production was done at New Haven but, some have now surfaced taht have been produced in Ilion from left over New Haven parts. Easiest way to tell is to check the proof stamp on the barrel a "JM" on the left will be New Haven (Original Marlin Co.) production a "REP" on the right will be Iilon (Remington) production . Also check the serial number, the New Haven production guns start with 91-, Iilion, NY production starts with MR.
    I have one of these purchased on Black Friday last year. It's a REP marked, 91-S/N gun, fwiw. Good gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j20owner View Post
    I have one of these purchased on Black Friday last year. It's a REP marked, 91-S/N gun, fwiw. Good gun.
    REP marked with a 91- serial number. First i've herd of one of those.

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    dmdracer:

    Here is what those beasts look like!
    Ran some of the RCBS 270 SAA that were wqww's up to over 1700fps.
    The big boy's are getting 1500+fps.

    Tom
    Last edited by GARCIA; 08-23-2012 at 03:24 PM.

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    I have one of the round barrel 1894s I bought at Big 5. It is Ballard Rifled. My daughter has taken it over as it is her favorite plinking rifle.
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