In and out of the hospital

[Recluse]

but has any one tried the home cure method ????

Hope you get better!!! and get flying again

Trust me: I tried EVERY home method there is and that I could find on the internet. Hard to do any real serious surfing from the laptop when you're curled up in the fetal position moaning like a dog that just got its jewels whacked.

I drank the Coke. I ate asparagus--grilled, raw, steamed and fried. I drank apple cider vinegar. I drank grape juice. I drank so much water that I lost ALL sympathy for the ragheads who are getting water-boarded. (Give those SOBs a kidney stone and THEY'LL TALK, guaranteed).

I even tried hopping on my left foot to try and jar the little nazi loose. I walked. I paced. I got on the Nordic Track in between fetal position bouts.

I swore. I cried. I even tried to wet myself, but nothing came out.

After the day, night and day in the Emergency room/regular hospital room, the meds they gave me constipated me. . . so now on top of having a friggin' rock traveling back and forth from the kidney to the bladder, my lower GI was more messed up than the national credit rating.

More grape juice. Fiber by the bushel. Laxatives that should've had me reading every back issue of Handloading, AOPA Pilot, Sport Pilot, Rifle and Trade-A-Plane that I have in the bathroom.

Nothing. Finally, that broke loose and holy cow. . . buy stock in Charmin. That's Recluse's stock tip of the week.

The little nazi is still in there, somewhere. Next Wednesday, we go to war. If it means going under and having the urologist strap on the camera, scope and salad tongs on a cable, then so be it.

I just want that sucker out so I can get my medical back.

Very sorry to hear about this, Recluse. Kidney stones are HELL--been there/done that. Also have had a grand tour of the not-so-local medical facilities since April of this year, and I'm about TIRED OF DOCTORS--and of not shooting and not fishing due to the interferences they impose. TOTAL PITA!!

I do suppose the illnesses/conditions are most to blame here. Expletives deleted.

I think heat, national uncertainty and general gloominess is contributing to people's less than pleasant moods here as of late.

Of course, the things you'll write when in pain never help, either.

Maybe we could give kidney stones to every single elected official, at the same time and ALL get a little relief?

[9.3X62AL]

I made a bit of a general context error above--no reference to the site, "here" meant my sitch with the docs. Sorry for the confusion, sir--and do hope you get the pain under control ASAP, hopefully via the offending item's passage forthwith.

[geargnasher]

Damn! That sucks, Recluse. You made my week. Water table dropped out from under the submersible pump last weekend, had to clear 125 yards of cedar and rebuild the roadbed Monday and Tuesday after work, Well Boys got their rig in at 17:00 Wednesday to pull 31 joints, run a camera in for a look, and put back 33 joints. Got water at midnight, then fought fires in the area Thursday after work. Whatever this effing drought doesn't kill off deserves to live, I tell you, but your ordeal makes my life this week look like a walk in the park! Sure hope it gets straightened out pronto. Here's to hoping also that they have good AC and good medication in the "horsepistol"! Have you tried the PatMarlin method of breaking the buggars up?

Doctors make you want to go on a shooting spree sometimes. Medical science has come up with some amazing treatments, procedures, surgeries, and medications, but the average GP or even specialist can't diagnose their way out of a wet paper sack. What gets my blood boiling is that they've been working on the same two models since the dawn of civilization, and they haven't figured out the first thing about what the human body needs to function properly. Vets know all about nutrition for dogs, cats, cockatiels, and racehorses, but your average doc still thinks food is only a source of calories for fuel.

For those of you who've been told to "take calcium" by your doctors, let me ask you something. Did the unqualified, brain-dead moron tell you what kind to take? Did they mention anything about chelation? Or Amino Acids? Or MAGNESIUM???? They tell you to take calcium, and most kinds are simply calcium carbonate, which is about as absorbable by the human body as beach silt, that's why it ends up in your kidneys. What little does get absorbed goes straight to places it shouldn't, like your joints or spine. Got bone spurs? Spurs pinching nerves? Good. Keep takin' that calcium carbonate and they'll get worse until the surgeon has to go in an hack them out, if they are even operable. Now, if you want to FIX the problem with that junk calcium they tell you to take, go get yourself some kind of chelated calcium, make CERTAIN you take half as much chelated magnesium oxide as you do calcium, and then you body can process the calcium. Calcium without magnesium will make bone spurs and kidney stones with boring regularity. If you want your supplements to REALLY work, take them with the greasiest meal of the day, since minerals are really only "fat soluble", and take your fish liver oils and vitamin E with them too to balance the essential fatty acid complex of your meal. Now your body can do what it's supposed to with the items it needs to function properly.

Oh, and take at least twice the USRDA of the supplements, the idiots at the FDA are so scared of supplements that they won't recommend nearly what the average person needs, and unless you eat a wheelbarrow full of organic spinach with some cold-pressed virgin olive oil and a couple shovelfulls of fresh alfalfa sprouts for breakfast every morning you ain't getting what you need from your food. Don't fall for the Citrical BS either, your body might be able to absorb it, but not process it because magnesium is essential for it's use, so your body dumps it anywhere it can, on the back of your wrists, in the vertebra in your neck, back, or knees, finger joints, kidneys, eye lenses (cataracts),etc.

I know none of you will take this seriously, but you might go do some reading by an old nutritionist by the name of Adelle Davis if you want to improve your health. I've been taking, literally, two grams of the right kind of calcium a day since I was about 10-1/2, a gram a day before that. I don't have bone spurs, "happy feet", or kidney stones. In 2006 I fell 21 feet to concrete and didn't break any bones (years of martial arts training helped with the landing, but it still was a whopper of a hit).

Awriight. Rant OFF. Get well ya grumpy bastaad!

Gear

[WildmanJack]

Had them twice. Once at the Fire station at about 3 in the morning. I'm out side the bunk room crawling on the floor, can't get the bunk room door open cause I can't reach that high up while crawling like a worm on the floor. Finally somebody gets up to pee and I send him back in for the other Medic. My partner comes out and I said, I think I'm trying to pass a stone. He wakes up the LT. and then starts an IV. Hits me with 6 mg of Morphine and says, how is the pain now? I said, I think I'm giving birth!! He gives me 2 mg. more of Morphine. Now I start to feel a bit better. He says hold up your arm, hangs the IV on my finger and says ok let's take him to the hospital. Got 6 more milligrams of Morphine and now I have no memory of what happened for the next 24 hours.
I will NEVER drink that much Arizona Iced Tea again!!!!!! Besides peeing thru that stupid funnel was a pain. When the stone finally came out it was like a little boulder hit the cardboard and relief was instantaneous..
I feel you pain brother...
Jack

[MT Gianni]

My sympathies to all those who deal with health issues. Get better guys we need you well.

[threett1]

Gear, I totally agree with you. The docs don't have any idea. And Recluse, you did have percs I see. They plug you up big time.

[gray wolf]

JD I know you will get err done and get err done correctly.
But until --I hope you are OK and everything comes out fine.

Sam & Julie

[lbaize3]

Recluse,
I have three brothers. The two of us (me and #3 bro) drink beer and eat jalapenos like they are going out of style. The other two (#2 and #4) don't take these simple precautions and both suffer from kidney stones. Having studied on this for the past 3 to 4 decades, beer and jalapenos is the only difference I can come up with between the four of us.

And you know that jalapenos also prevent hemorrhoids. Yep, it does. Just burns them little rascals off when you have a bowel movement.

Seriously, I know those rascals hurt. My youngest brother was hunting in a tree stand in Bandera, TX, when he got hit by serious kidney pain. Darned near fell out of the tree. Managed to get to his truck and drove to a clinic in town. He was in such pain that he left the truck open and running as he dragged himself into the clinic. Somehow he carried his rifle in with him. He made it to the main desk, threw the rifle up on the counter and yelled, "Give me something for the pain!"

After he cleared all the pills off the counter he managed to make them understand he had a kidney stone and they admitted him and gave him something for the pain.

True story. Know the pain is worse than bad. Hope you get better soon.

Leonard

[koehn,jim]

I hope everything works out good for you, has your doctor considered ultra sound to split the stone and let it pass easier. Best wishes.

[WILCO]

Prayers for you and yours Recluse.

Stay strong Recluse.

[waynem34]

god bless you.id rather eat two tablespoons of pee gravel if i had too.and will if need be.i will keep praying and thinking of yall

[firefly1957]

Get well soon I can not imagine your pain I was with my grandfather when he had a bout of kidney stones and broken bones did not hurt him like those did.

[Down South]

Best of luck Recluse. Never had stones but I've had other stuff. I hate to hear that it took your FAA.....

[Rick N Bama]

I had a total of 8 of the stones last year of which 5 had to be blasted out. I feel your pain!

Rick

[largom]

Wife had them 2 yrs. ago. Hit her about midnight, doubled up in pain and vomiting. I took her to emergency room where they ruled out kidney stones because she didn't have any blood in her urine. Well after dozens of tests they discovered she did have a kidney stone which they blasted. Hope yours comes out EASY whichever way it happens.

Larry

[Moonie]

Wife had them 2 yrs. ago. Hit her about midnight, doubled up in pain and vomiting. I took her to emergency room where they ruled out kidney stones because she didn't have any blood in her urine. Well after dozens of tests they discovered she did have a kidney stone which they blasted. Hope yours comes out EASY whichever way it happens.

Larry

Yea, my third bout with them the hospital I went to (different than the first two times) said no blood in urine, you don't have them and sent me home.

Passed it 3 hours later, with no pain killers...

Haven't let anyone I know go to that hospital since.

[slide]

Jiminy H. Christmas! Hearing these stories scares the hell out of me! Bullet casters must be the toughest guys on the planet. For all you guys that have them I wish you the best. For those of you who did have them I hope they never come back. This is going to give me nightmares.

[Johnk454]

STONES!

Evil Incarnate.

I've been plagued with them for years, starting in college. At least 10-12 of them have caused me to make a flying trip to the ER. One story: Years ago I had been working in the yard all day one Saturday trimming and mowing. As I was extremely dirty, I shucked my yard clothes on the back porch and jumped in the shower. Awoke in the middle of the night in agony. Got up, sneaked downstairs so as to not wake my wife, walked outside, donned my dirty yard clothes and took off to the ER. One look, and it was time for morphine (or dilaudid) and into a hospital room I went. Hours later I wake up and it was daylight. Decided I probably should call my wife as she would be awake by now... turns out she woke up and realized I was not in bed. Investigation reveals I'm not in the house, the back door is standing open and my truck is missing. So she calls my pager. No response. It's 3AM, I'm missing, and she concludes (rightly) I'M NOT WEARING MY PANTS!

I STILL hear about it to this day.

The pain can be indescribable. Last fall, while my wife and I were camping, I accidentally poured two gallons of boiling water on my chest. Jerked my shirt off, along with some skin. Took about 30m to break camp and head for home. Didn't make it. Asked her to stop at an ER along the way. Went inside looking like a boiled lobster (2nd and 3rd degree burns from right shoulder to waist). ER nurse asked "On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being highest, how would you rate your pain?" I replied "7 or 8, ain't a patch on a bad kidney stone" and then proceeded to go into shock...

My sympathies to anyone with these case-hardened sand spurs.

[Moonie]

Once you have had them you do have to explain the numbers when nurses/doctors ask you the 1 to 10 thing. They look at you funny when you say 5 for a compound fracture... That or they say "ah, you have had kidney stones I see"

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

Trust me: I tried EVERY home method there is and that I could find on the internet.

Have you tried some 45-45-10?

Hope you get the lead out pardner