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Anyone one else seeing pics showing up where there was none? Ithink the forums got gremlins,,,,,,
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Anyone one else seeing pics showing up where there was none? Ithink the forums got gremlins,,,,,,
More "This is what happened when I,,,,," and less "What would happen if I,,,,"
Last of the original Group Buy Honcho's.
"Dueling should have never been made illegal in this country. It settled lots of issues between folks."- Char-Gar
Rides et Ratio
8mm French, made from 32-20's. Got a WFN mold from LBT about 25 years ago.
Would love to have a rifle chambered for this ".33 Special".
I'll go with the 30 Herrett
Jesus said ( Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest ) Matt. 11:28
My local gun shop makes me feel like I'm weird for wanting a target gun in 3006...
They told me 308 was more common. I'm standing there thinking" oh good, my lifetime supply of 06 cases are for nothing"
And then i come on here and realize some people just don't understand.
Lake Havasu City... Born and raised
Up at the cabelas in louisville, they have a winchester 86 in 33 winchester, I could surely love it... I just cant come up with 2k bucks for the purchase of such.
There's a soft spot in my heart for the .303 British. It was the first rifle cartridge I loaded myself.
It's only hubris if I'm wrong.
Obsolete means the rounds are not longer in production. Obsolescent means the rounds are on their way to becoming obsolete. Most of the rounds mentioned in this thread are not obsolete as loaded cartridges and brass can still be purchased.
That said, my favorite truly obsolete round is the 25 Remington. I owned both a Remington 14 pumpgun and a Remington 30S in this chamberings and they were wonderful rifles. I don't think ammo has been produced since the 40s or 50s.
Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.
303 Brit, 7.7 Jap, 8 Mauser, 45 ACP
Well, since I'm shooting Montana gophers out to 200 yards this week in Central Montana with a 22 Honet, I guess it's my favorite obsolete cartridge this week. Who knows what next week will bring?
Keep your powder dry,
Scharf
25-20WCF and 38-55 both in Marlins, one old, the other not as much. One is my favorite small game rifle, the other my newest cast boolit hunting rig
CharGar is correct. So I'll go with .219 Zipper and .43 Mauser. And guys; the .45 ACP is more popular today than it has ever been!
Where to start: 43 Mauser, 35 Winchester, 33 Winchester 22 Hi-power, 250 Savage 455 Webley, 38 S&W
I don't know how "obsolete" they are but I do enjoy loading 38 Colt Short and Long - just for the "history" of them. I load quite a few of the Colt Shorts (Starline brass) with such boolits as from the 358-242 (120 ish grain) or the 94 ish grain from the same mold (I have both). Easy on powder - a couple of grains o Red Dot and it's a fun cartridge out of my Smith 3" Model 36.
I've loaded both (Short & Long) with BP and shot from my Ruger NV or Uberti Bisley - fun to play with.
I have everything to reload the 32-20 (32 WCF) but just haven't gotten around to it as I'm still looking for a decent vintage revolver in that caliber - would love to have a single shot rifle in 32-20.
"historic cartridges" just have a great appeal to me and I appreciate those who continue to reload them and keep the "old girls" barking!
40-70SS , 40-90-2 5/8 necked, 25/30/32 Remington (luckily I have a bucket of new 30REM brass) most anything odd is appealing.
Bill
Stevens 25-21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25-21_Stevens
20 or 21gr FFg black powder
From Sharpe's book:
8.0/2400/60-gr. metal-cased/ 1527 fps/ 10.5K PSI
11.0/2400/60-gr. MC/ 2036 fps/ 18.0k PSI
13.0/2400/60-gr. MC/2370 fps/ 29.6K PSI (Max or near-max)
6.0/2400/86-gr SP/0.450" seating depth/953 fps/ 9.1 K PSI
10.0/2400/86-gr SP/0.450" SD/1673 fps/ 18k PSI
12.0/2400/86-gr SP/0.450" SD/200 fps/29.4K "Strong rifles only"
5.5/Unique/86-gr lead/0.450" SD/1525 fps
From The Breech-loading Single-shot Rifle:
5.0/Unique/Lyman 88-gr. #257464, breech-seated ahead of case/blotting paper wad in case.
8.0/2400/rest same as above.
Last edited by John Boy; 06-19-2017 at 11:50 AM.
Regards
John
.22 Savage HiPower, 5.6x35R (I just use Hornet neck sizing dies), .22 Maximum Lovell (obsolete and a wildcat too- double whammy), .310 Cadet, .303 Savage. I don't consider .30-40 to be obsolete- since I've had a lifetime supply of brass since long ago I wasn't even aware that brass was hard to get.
Sussing out obsolete cartridges is way more fun than having the world handed to you via shooting "modern" readily available stuff!
The 41 Swiss. 11MM French two odd balls that i have to reform brass. Another odd ball is the 8mm Siamese.
303 savage
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I 'Wildcat' CF versions of the Stevens .25 Long RF cartridge and some longer and shorter versions. ".25-10-67" would have been the BP era Designation for the 1.125" case length round using a .250" diameter Bullet.
Other case Lengths are: .930"; 1.024", 1.055", 1.250", and 1.350".
Best Regards,
Chev. William
I've always favored the 222 and the 22 Hornet that I've shot. The 222 I've developed loads for my boy's gun (Rem 700), what a joy. The Hornet (or K-Hornet) is another joy to shoot and load for. Of those that I haven't shot or loaded for would like to go with a 25-20 and a 50-70. But wouldn't turn down any gun to shoot.
Rob
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |