Originally Posted by
butch2570
Remington was once a great manufacturing company, but sadly that's over, you say their responsibility is to stay solvent and not to cater to dilettantes? How do you propose they stay profitable when people like myself that have a gun cabinet full of older remingtons ,quite buying them now, because of their sloppy and trashy quality control?? I have not bought a new Remington , Marlin or NEF in the last 2 years because of their trashy looking poorly fit items...Remington is one of the WORST companies to market a truly good product and their marketing dept muffs it up, and leaves the customer hanging with no support on their proprietary calibers, example 222 REM, still a popular little caliber, CZ, SAKO, and SAVAGE still market this caliber, REM designed it and offer no Production rifles for it now, and only offer runs on the ammo. 6mm REM, everything the 243 WIN is and then some, again marketing flub, they made a run on this rifle 3 or 4 years ago in a stainless laminate for around $1100 and a short run in a maple stocked 7600 pump for $300 more than a walnut stocked one and only offer ammo in limited runs again, and it's around $ 30 dollars a box for the el cheapo ammo, vs $20 for the same green and yellow box 243 win, why would anyone buy a 6mm over a 243 when there is that much of a price difference in the rifles and ammo, the average Joe can buy all kinds of off the shelf $500 rifles in a 243. They have shot their own self in the foot, and I feel sorry for their workers but not their greedy management. Some more REM situations where they left the PAYING CONSUMER hanging after buying their poorly supported products are the 222 Rem Mag, 5mm, the 8mm Rem Mag,6.5 Rem Mag,350 Rem Mag, I don't think they even offer brass now for some of these calibers. Even the really good calibers like the 25-06, 7mm08,22-250,260,221, 17,280 are limited on availability on ammo or brass, to where you can actually walk into a gun shop and buy Rem ammo for their own products. They are trying to create a stable market for themselves in the future by cutting us the consumer back on the options we have when purchasing a new firearm and keeping their costs down, in the not so far off future here is going to be your choices, 223/556,243,270,308,30-06, 7 mm Mag, 300 win Mag and you will buy these or nothing.That way they can keep costs down by controlling the amount of tooling costs and they can run 7 different kinds of ammo and not be bothered with changing the ammo plant back and forth with different calibers all the time. They lost my business a long time ago, I have lost all respect for them, probably never to be found again.