311410

[Dannix]

Oct 9, 2012
Active Thread is Here
Please do not delay if you plan on signing up -- Miha will start cutting the bocks for this this week.


Sept 21, 2012
A big thanks to cbrick for starting this up. Unfortunately it became apparent he at some point became indisposed of, so I'm now picking up the baton to organize this group buy. I'll be getting in touch with Miha to make sure we are all on the same page.


<< Heard from Miha today (11/09/11) and he will make this mold, looks like this will become reality. As soon as I get the required info for an active group buy from Miha such as Prices, diameters, cavities etc I will start a new thread in the active group buy forum. >>

I have a 311410 130 grain single cavity HP'd by Lyman many years ago, I had Erik at Hollow Point Bullet Mold remove the bevel base and make an additional shorter HP pin with a rounded tip. It drops bullets at .312" which is fine sizing down to .310" or .309" for both my Ruger 30 Carbine (.308” bore) or my T/C 32-20 (actually 30-20, .308 bore). Being a single cavity it allows me to spend more time casting, not really a bad thing. However, once I discovered how much both of these guns like this bullet and how devastating it is on ground squirrels even with rather light loads I get to spend A LOT MORE time casting.

The drawings made by longbow have been sent to Miha, here are the options we have asked for:

2 and 4 cavity brass.
Cramer Style HP.
Both plain base and gas check versions. If GC & PB can be in the same mold is up to Miha.
HP pin lengths of .270" and .500".
HP pins will be round, no penta pins per Miha.
Pin set for casting FP only.
As cast diameters of .311" and .315"/.316".

Once we have this info confirmed and pricing info from Miha a new thread will be started in the active group buy thread.

Rick

Edit to start an "Interested in" list.

1> cbrick - 4 cav PB, .311", two sets of round pins, one set .500" long, one set .270" long, flip pins for flat point
2> cbrick - 4 cav GC, .311", two sets of round pins, one set .500" long, one set .270" long, flip pins for flat point
3> L1A1Rocker - .311", 4 cav, PB, all pins.
4> ocelott - .310" or .311" ??
5> PatMarlin - .316" ??
6> midnight - 311", 4 cav, GC, all pins.
7> shawnsmc - gc version rg4 or 4 cavity brass Cramer.
8> mpmarty - 2 cav, .310", PB, .270" pins.
9> tonyjones - .311", 2 or 4 cavity, GC, RG or Cramer.
10> Echo - 2 Cavity, 2 PB, 2 GC.
11> kbstenberg - .311 GC, 2 cav, Pin length at less than 1/3rd length rounded tip.
12> hicard - .311", 4 cav, GC, .270" pins.
13> buyobuyo - 2 or 4 cavity, GC, .311".
14> bwgdog - Cramer 4 cav, .311".
15> ocelott - .311" ??
16> Wayne S - .311 with a .300/301 nose, GC 5 cavity Alum. no HP.
17> gmsharps - .311", 4 cavity, GC, Cramer with all available pins.
18> castalott - .311 brass, 4 cavity, Cramer, plain base, Miha with all pins.
19> longbow - .315", PB, 2 maybe 4 cav, all pins.
20> dromia - .311", # of cavities? PB?, GC? Pin length undecided.
21> dromia - .315", # of cavities? PB?, GC? Pin length undecided.
22> cutter_spc - .311", 2 cav GC, all pins.
23> shdwlkr - .315", 2 cav GC, .270" pins.
24> shdwlkr - .312", 2 cav PB, .270" pins.
25> PatMarlin - .316", ??
26> Suo Gan - .315", ??
27> castblast - .311", 2 cav GC, all pins.
28> castblast - .315", 2 cav GC, all pins.
29> Ugluk - .311", 2 cav, all pins.
30> castalott - .311", 4 cav PB, all pins.
31> castalott - .311", 4 cav GC, all pins.
32> kmag - ?
33> dagunnut - .311", 4 cav, GC, all pins.
34> Mohillbilly - .311", 4 cav, GC, .500" pins.
35> Mohillbilly - .315", 4 cav, GC, .270" pins.
36> Mohillbilly - .311", 4 cav, PB, pins ??
37> Springfield - .311", 2 cav, GC, .270" pins.
38> rollmyown - .311", 2 cav GC, All pin options.
39> x101airborne - .314"/.315", 4 cav - 2 PB, 2 GC, All pins.
40> shangrila - .311", 2 cav, GC, all pins.
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42> HiVelocity - .315", 2 cav, GC, .270" pins.
43> Janoosh - .315", 2 cav, PB, all pins.
44> Greg - .311", 2 cav, GC, all pins.
45> Rattlesnake Charlie - .311", 4 cav, GC, All pins.
46> PB234 - .315", (four cavity with 2 GC and two PB - This will be up to Miha) or all four cavs GC, all pins.
47> DDriller - .311", 2 cav, GC, all pins.
48> Bodydoc447 - .311", 2 cav, GC, .270" pins, flat point pins.
49> taminsong - .311", 4 cav, GC, .270" pins.
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Check this out - 3D view of 311410. Open as a regular pdf file, left mouse click on image to start 3D then left mouse click again & hold down left mouse button to rotate image. Use mouse wheel to enlarge or reduce image size. (Another great image from longbow) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/atta...9&d=1321232726

Here are the final drawings made by longbow posted on 11-13-11. Thanks longbow, this helps a lot.

Post for post merger.

[L1A1Rocker]

Is that 130 gr solid or 130 gr w/hollow point?

[ocelott]

I'm game - I'd ideally like to see a gas checked option - I like the cramer option - preferably on the .310-.311 range

[cbrick]

It is 130 Gr. with the shorter HP pin and 126 Gr. with the original Lyman pin, both weights as the plain base.

Rick

[L1A1Rocker]

I'm going to bump this thread. Still thinking about it myself. It could make a pretty good varmit boolit for my 308 bolt gun.

[cbrick]

I'm going to bump this thread. Still thinking about it myself. It could make a pretty good varmit boolit for my 308 bolt gun.

I haven't tried this bullet in the 308 yet but that is an intriguing idea. I’d bet in a 308 it could really ruin a coyotes entire day given what this bullet with a really light load in the Ruger 30 Carbine does to ground squirrels.

Rick

[DragoonDrake]

I would be interested if this mold came from Noe.

[cbrick]

I would be interested if this mold came from Noe.

I would be more than pleased if Al would make this mold. Would also be a great thing in a brass 4 cav Cramer from Miha.

We are going to need a few more people interested though. It's kind of common to hear people asking about light weight bullets for the 308 and this could be just the ticket. I am going to try and get into the loading room this afternoon and load some of these for the 308, if it works as well as I believe it should I'll be feeding three guns with this bullet and REALLY need to get it in a multi cavity.

Rick

[midnight]

A 2 or 4C brass cramer type from Miha would trip my trigger. I'd kinda like a GC version just in case I want to push it faster. I may have to get a gas check maker though just to be more independent of suppliers. When the SHTF I don't want to be dependent on anyone.

Bob

[cbrick]

I started a "Interested in" list in post one of this thread. Anyone on the list should see if I have them listed correctly for what they would like.

One thing not discussed yet is the HP pin length. The original Lyman pin is .495" long, well over half the bullet length deep with a square tip. The pin I had Erik make for this mold is a little than less half this long (or deep) with a rounded tip.

Rick

[shawnsmc]

I would be interested in a gc version rg4 or 4 cavity brass Cramer.

[scb]

count me in.

[cbrick]

Thanks guys, your officially on the "interested in list.

Need to know just what it is you would like, gas check, plain base, as cast diameter etc. This is a discussion thread to find such things out.

Rick

[DragoonDrake]

If you need my specifics, I can go .311-.313 and 4 cavity mold (undecided yet on GC and how many).

Adam

[tonyjones]

Rick,

I'm interested. I'm not sure if the nose is large enough for NOE's RG type HP moulds to work. Al needs to weigh in on that. I would take aluminum or brass, 2 or 4 cavity, RG or Cramer, GC, .311" as cast. I like the pin design you had made by Erik. My choice will depend in large part on what NOE can or can not do.

Regards,

Tony

[DragoonDrake]

CBRICK, you are a little big on my wants.

[Echo]

I would be interested in a gc version rg4 or 4 cavity brass Cramer.

Me too, 2 Pb, 2 GC.

[cbrick]

CBRICK, you are a little big on my wants.

Dang, now who moved that "4" key that close to the "3" key?

Should be correct now.

Rick

[L1A1Rocker]

Have you tried this in the 308 yet? If I were to get this mold I'd be looking at a .311, plane base, 4 cavity cramer type. If it is spiked or has hardware on the bottom that interferrs with my bottom pour guide rod I would pass on it.

[scb]

Rick, I think I'd want a 2 cav., GC, .311 dia. #of cavities might depend on who you get to make it. Thanks.