when needed in my pest control business i u use .22cb shorts its quiter than a pellet gun and works!
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when needed in my pest control business i u use .22cb shorts its quiter than a pellet gun and works!
I wonder if it would be possible to design a barrel insert for a 12-gauge single shot shotgun that had a .38 inner barrel and a suppressor that would still fit inside the barrel of the last foot or so of the shotgun barrel. Probably not enough volume...
A 1/4" pipe tends to fit a .38Spl case, and I have used one as long as my barrel to do something similar. Now, this wasn't fancy, and I'm not even sure it was safe, but I didn't know that back in jr. high so got away with it. I used duct tape to wrap around the "breach" and "muzzle of my pipe til it fit the inside of the 12ga barrel and keep the pipe centered, but DID NOT modify anything to create a suppressor-type device, as I didn't even know about that at the time. I just wanted something to shoot a box of .38s I had been given but didn't have a gun to shoot out of. I fired those 50rds, then my parents figured out what I was doing and threw away my pipe, but it was safe for those 50 shots. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't even risk trying to make a suppressor without a stamp, especially when I can go get a pipe just like I had, and a roll of duct tape, and just load a few very light .38s, and I'm sure it would be as quiet as a pelletgun just due to the length of the barrel if you were to use it in something with a longish barrel, like the H&R single shot that I did this with years ago. Accuracy wasn't great by any means, but it was plenty good for me to hit coke cans at 15-20yds back then, and I would bet that you can get much closer than that to a possum. I mean, we are relaoders, so any of us can load light loads, and all these would really have to do is make it out the muzzle.
You don't need much volume for a suppressor. But it's illegal in your parts, no?
You could set up a quiet load and fire it through a suppressor box conveniently placed.
No, you just have to pay an unconstitutional tax on it.
Now, I wonder if whether creating a compensator that just happened to reduce the sound pressure would fall under the (unconstitutional) NFA rules.
Of course, since I don't own a lathe or mill, this is just an academic question for me.
Hammer , works real well...
A poster somewhere said no. In one state (he said), it was legal provided it did not reduce noise levels by more than some figure, could have been 4 db or maybe 2 db. I don't think he was sure. 3 db is half the sound pressure level. Anyway, I had a muzzle device no bigger than a muzzle break that was a mini suppressor but it cut recoil considerably. It may have given only 4 db. It's hard to tell. It was as effective as a full blown commercial over-barrel suppressor on my buddies 308.Quote:
Now, I wonder if whether creating a compensator that just happened to reduce the sound pressure would fall under the (unconstitutional) NFA rules.
That suppressor tax, is that for crime control? It doesn't seem right.
It is currently, and has been since it was imposed in 1934, a $200 tax. Now, I put that 200 figure into a online inflation calculator to see how much it would be if it had changed along with inflation, and $200 back then was the equivalent of a bit over $3000 today. Makes me think it had nothing to do with crime, and everything to do with control. I guess some things don't change after all. It was just intended as one of those "we're not saying you CAN'T have it, just that you have to pay a STEEP PRICE to have it". Well, I see that as being as UNconstitutional as if they had said we can't have it outright, because that is the effect it had for most people. Now, given the choice of paying a tax and not having it, I will pay the tax, but that is just because I would much rather bitch about an unjust law from outside a cell than inside one. I figure from poutside a cell, at least I can try and write letters and hopefully someday vote to repeal this BS law.
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a live trap, cat food, and a 30 gal garbage can.
They go for the food, trap closes, drop the cage in the water, blub, blub, blub.
Any animal control will lend you a trap
Save yer ammo for them 2 legged varmints
If you're going to kill something, kill it humanely. Drowning, poisoning or burning something to death is bull**** and indicative of a sick and cowardly mind--of which it seems we're getting an ever growing amount of around here, which probably explains the reduced frequency of postings by older members.
However, the individual I quoted up above has been on my longtime Ignore List and even when I see him quoted by other members in response, I generally just ignore. But I can only take so much of some of the keyboard commandos we have around here who I envision typing with one hand while stroking a pimped out black gun in the other as John Milius movies play in the background with the tv reflecting off a wall with "Wolverines" spray painted on it. :rolleyes:
It's a (expletive deleted) possum. I've had 'em in my yard from time to time in the city and after about two days, they were gone. They're basically nomadic and don't stick around. The one and only one I ever had stick around in town was dispatched with two shots from a Ruger MKII using some subsonic ammo and a heavily duct-tape wrapped 20oz Coke bottle on the end of the barrel. Two more shots directly into the head ensured that he wasn't playing possum and was in fact dead. Into a garbage bag he/she went and curbside garbage pickup took care of the rest.
Had one in the hangar a couple of years ago that didn't want to leave--the dog chased him off and we never saw him again.
Trap the damned thing then give it to animal control or go to the edge of town and dump it or whatever. Or shoot it cleanly and bury it or throw it in the garbage. There is no sane, rational, ethical reason to torture, poison or drown the thing--just kill it quick and sure and be done with it.
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Foot hold or conibear traps cannot legally be set within X distance of a domicile or place a human travels etc etc.
What are these possums hurting? Dad always said they were natures garbage men.
I just grab them by the tail and take them somewhere where they can be happy. When I was a kid the pelts were worth a buck each.
No town in my area has an animal control person. We have a County Dog Warden woman but she don't mess with things that don't pay.
I never invite people with county, state, fed plates to my house!
J
That opossum would be proud he has caused 3 pages of discussion, just to get rid of him. lol
Which is worse, possum's or armadillo's?
Hmmm... Let's see... On one hand, 'possums attempt to steal the food of your dogs and get into your trash can... They also get in trees and you might not be able to see them at night, even though your dogs are barking at them... On the other, armadillos tear up your yard... Both end up making my dogs bark in the middle of the night and I have to wake up, go outside, and dispatch the pest... Armadillos have a shell which is tough enough that bird shot will often just bounce off of it...
I would have to say that armadillos are worse just because of the damage that they can do to your yard.
Around here armadillo's have caught up with possums as roadkill despite the fact they are relatively recent residents. That hard shell is no match for 18 wheelers.
Plus, their defensive mechanism is to jump up when surprised. Worked great for horses, not so much for 18-wheelers. I've seen them jump up to 5 ft high. Makes for an interesting shot at night. Try to get them at the top of the jump when you pull the trigger...
According to the information on this site, it's only 3-4 ft, but I'm pretty sure that it was at least shoulder height when I encountered it late one night.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/armadillo.html
I have lived "in town" for the last 5 years. My house is the first house in town the city limit sign is in my front yard. We don't see many opossums but in the last 4 years I have dispatched 17 groundhogs from the backyard in broad day light and nobody has heard a thing. 40% of those were with .22 LR from a bolt action rifle the rest were with CCI .22 short CB loads 29gr solid from the same bolt rifle. I have used a Ruger Single Six though one time and it was fairly quiet with the CCI shorts as well.
we don't have armadillos where i am, but we always referred to them as possum on the half shell.
I would think a howitzer would do just fine and draw very little attention.
In New Zealand we find possum sunning themselves on the side of the road and sometimes closer to the middle of the road. They lie like that for days without moving.
We shoot them with silenced 22's at night with spot lights.
If a quiet 30 cal is being called for, what about a pellet driven by one or two grains of bullseye.
Good morning
Wrist Rocket and a caliber .30 ball bearing. If someone already noted this procedure I did not read all the previous. Anyway aim for the earlope.
Then you will want to start a nearby vehicle for tire tread application.
Mike in Peru
I never was what a guy would call good with a wrist rocket (not exactly what we called them back then) but I had a friend when we were kids that could nail a squirrel of the top of a telephone probably 9 out of 10 shots.
There is a video out that I have seen of a guy that just doesn't miss anything with one.
I think you are all trying to corrupt me.
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Don't you just call 'yer mate the turtleman or swamp people or anaconda man. croc swimmer wrestler bloke.
Just in ...vite some of 'yer kin folk around for a barbie.
Just blast it with a shottie and yell out don't worry dear just another one of those F@%kin snakes.
For those who do not have a lathe, a co. in Anchorage, AK, makes a line of inserts and adapters, for both rifles and shotguns.
I have an adapter to fire .22 rf in a .223 Handi, it does work, it is not convenient, but it works.
I also have a .38sp/.357 mag adapter for 20 ga. it was made by Numrich some 40 years ago it works and a factory .38sp is not very loud when fired from a 20ga with a 24" barrel.
I am sure some minimal loads would be even more quiet.
The co. in Anchorage is MCA Sports.
How quiet can subsonic, light shot load 12ga shotguns be? Another question, how effective and accurate would a sabot'ed round ball be in a shotgun? What distance are we talking here, 20yds? A steel ball would have enough speed to do the job at almost inaudible (to the neighbours) levels. It doesn't matter if there is some noise as long as it doesn't sound like a gunshot.
Gloolits
Here is the link to my experiments. By the way, consider leaving a can of tuna on your neighbor's porch and let them deal with the critter.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=possum
Stuff 4 or 5 grains of unique in that '06, put in a tuft of filler and force a lead round ball in the end of the shell so it's tight. You can to that with a common bench vice. That is how I reloaded round ball in 38's for years before I ever got a press. Voila .....Quiet homemade small game whacker ......
Ohio Rusty ><>
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leaving a can of tuna on your neighbor's porch
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start a nearby vehicle for tire tread application
My earliest loading and LE mentor's weapon of choice was the 4-cell Kel light. May he rest in peace, he REALLY hated possums.
For the record, I did work one up for the garand, 2.2 gr titegroup, 311299 boolit: slow slow. penetrates a pine 2x4. And quieter than a subsonic 22.
Was hitting a foot low at 25 meters, so adjusted the sights up, lands at a 40 degree angle.
:)