Blackfooted Ferrets Discovered in SD

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[starmac]

Cattle. Prarie dogs can and do ruin a lot of country.

[Bad Water Bill]

those ferrets do love a daily plate full of nice warm P dogs. M M good.

[Bob Krack]

Bad news: The Indians want to poison the prairie dog towns...again. Now, I am all for people running their own property, but who do you think that land would be worth a LOT more with prairie dogs and blackfooted ferrets, or cattle?

Why would what I think have anything at all to do with someone sovereign doing something with their property - that has no real effect on me or mine? No flames intended, just truly confused.

Bob

[Houndog]

This is probably just another attempt to find something to close down Pararie Dog hunting on the Indian reservation near Piere SD. The enviro whaco/PETA types have been trying to get this done for years, even to the point of trying to get Pararie Dogs put on the endangered species list! On my last trip out there I shot over 1,000 rounds a day at those critters! It would be nice if they would declare open season on the eviro-idiots and let the Indians take care of the reservation. They know more about what needs done than some tree hugger.

[btroj]

What's done is none of my business.

Yes, people who enjoy shooting prairie dogs getup set when they are poisoned. So what. If the land owner wants to manage his property for cattle rather than prairie dog shooters then so be it.

[Bad Water Bill]

IIRC you need to get a license from the TRIBE to hunt the reservation and then only with a hired tribal guide.

Now look at the motel and meal monies to be made by the tribe.

Someone has to be offering those college educated leaders a lot of money.

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[btroj]

Sounds to me like the Indians need to learn to manage the land for better financial stability.

Again, that isn't my concern. I am not a native American, I don't live on the reservation. Of the reservation is dumb enough to let a few ranchers manipulate them then they deserve what they get.

Poor land management isn't a new problem.

As for the idea that the state own the animals on the land, not the land owner to an extent that is true. My problem is that the government likes to dictate to landowners what they can and can't do on their property even if it means loss of income or use of the land.

To a certain extent, I really don't care. I don't shoot prairie dogs. Never have seen a black footed ferret. Probably never will. I don't see myself losing much sleep over this.

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[pdawg_shooter]

I am a dedicated prairie dog shooter, as my name implies, BUT I shoot them on other peoples land. If the land owner decides to poison them, it is his right, and I will live with it. I will NOT, however pay for the privilege to do so. He may own the land but he does not own the dogs. IMHO. I will not pay a land owner to hunt anything. If he has a problem with damage I will be glad to help him out, but I will not pay to do so. As you can see, this is a sore spot for me.

[Olevern]

Sounds like the wild hog situation in Texas. You hear all the ranchers cry about the damage, but when you offer to help them out by shooting them all of a sudden those hogs are worth $250.00 to $500.00 apiece. Not too sympathetic anymore hearing the "woe is me" cries from landowners.

To you who are Texas landowners and/or leasees of same, no intent to defame and you may not fit this description, but in my experience, many do.

[41 mag fan]

Native Americans make plenty of money off the federal gov't every month, plus alot of the tribes have over the last couple of decades, turned the tables, from being a poor poverished people to being multi millionaires by owning casinos.
Just a couple I know off hand is the seminoles in Florida, the Ojibwas of N Minnesota, esp around Mille Lacs and the tribe down by the twin cities.
When they live in a junky trailer, but have corvettes and cadillacs sitting in weeds because they wanted a new vehicle, thats alot of money.
Leaving the land as is, if they are a rich tribe, should be something they'd want to do, since their heritage was to live off the land and respect the land, before the white man came onto it and started destroying it centuries ago.

if they found an endangered specie, then the federal gov't needs to step in and ensure the ferrets survival. Or capture and relocate before they poison the land.

[gkainz]

Apparently a lot of you have never set eyes on the Pine Ridge or Rosebud reservations nor are familiar with the demographics of South Dakota.

The land is so tough that it takes a hundred acres to graze a cow and calf (ok maybe that's stretching the truth just a little) and if every resident of SD went to a casino it probably wouldn't net enough to pay the light bill for the weekend.
Greg - former Sou'Dakotan

[waksupi]

Cattle. The ferrets were most likely transplanted there. They found out when they tried the same experiment here, the ferrets are too stupid to survive. The predators get them in short order. I don't know what kind of environment the ferrets originally existed in, but it must have been a real la-la land, with plenty of vermin for the predators. I think they would do better in colonies of Richardson's ground squirrels.

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[runfiverun]

here is a thought.
now that they have found the ferrets they ain't doing either one.
the ferrets are on the "LIST".
this puts the dog town's out of reach for either cattle or killing the p-dog's.

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[starmac]

It doesn't just boil down to where the prairei dog town is. If not checked it will continue to grow ruining more land and they don''t care where the boundaries are.

I have a lot more problem with the govt paying more than the land is worth to save a ferret.
I have a bigger problem with the federal govt telling anybody what they can or can't do with their land because of a, animal.

If the black footed ferret is going to go extinct, like many species and subspecies before it, there is nothing mankind can do about it. it is what it is, just part of evolution.