1hole happily says,
"Here am I, send me!"
I need no discussion on this topic because I'm not puzzled; I have the written words.
Bottom line first: The blood promise of the land to Abraham and his descendants was unilateral. Abe actually seems to have slept through most of it so he had nothing to do with the covenant of land.
God's promised land, which Abe's tribe has not yet possessed and is still out of their reach, is MUCH larger than present day Israel. So, either (1) God made Abe, Issac and Jacob a mistaken promise about the land or (2)
it's yet to happen; I vote for the latter!
Now, the only
CONDITIONAL part of God's promise was that national blessings would follow national obedience. It's important for us to note that much of those national blessings have been gained in part and then lost several times. But, contrary to our extremely high opinions of ourselves, we modern gentiles living in the U.S.A. today really aren't the high point of God's plans.
God's plan for Abe and his descendants obviously isn't finished yet and I believe He can properly handle all of our little problems just fine when the time is right!
Me, I'm just a child of God's so I try to keep things as simple as possible. I know God still loves his chosen people so I still pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and God's chosen people, every night. Yeah, sure, I know there will be no peace for Jews and Israel or anywhere else on earth so long as the combined forces of hell continue trying to exterminate those people and keep them out of their promised homeland; I also know that's going to stop.
Those aren't my ideas guys so don't argue with me! It's all in His Book, so
the popular antisemitic cry that "the church has replaced the Jews" delusion just ain't gonna work out the way some folk want it to but it doesn't bother me a bit! )
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Cheer, forgive me if I misstated your position about Zionism. It wasn't my intent to put my words into your mouth (I have a cold and that's not sanitary!) I was simply trying to condense what I thought you meant into more understandable words but I clearly didn't get your message.
I'd be happy to hear exactly what you believe about Zionism as we know it today. ????