It was on here,but I didn't save the forum,and just remembered oldfart by name when I found this thread.I am to new to know yet all the softwear stuff,and how to use it.I was wanting to buy the item,but oldfart had pm the guy,the guy bumped,there was old fart saying he was sick sorry pm coming.The the guy bumps,and someone else pm and got the mold.I figured bump mean like thread refreshed,and all pm's are void.I don't belong to another forum like this.