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    Third generation machinist been doing the machining gig since age 22 (running a 6 axis machine as I type this) and the best piece of advice about using a caliper. Calipers are reference ONLY nothing more, you want exact pull out the mic.
    Depending on a caliper for exact measurements is like using your bathroom scale to measure out powder charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warf73 View Post
    Third generation machinist been doing the machining gig since age 22 (running a 6 axis machine as I type this) and the best piece of advice about using a caliper. Calipers are reference ONLY nothing more, you want exact pull out the mic.
    Depending on a caliper for exact measurements is like using your bathroom scale to measure out powder charges.
    Perzactly.

    I don't know why anyone would fuss over tenths of grains when charging powder, but not fuss over at least a verified, calibrated, ACCURATE thousandth or possibly even two-tenths of that. You dang well ain't gonna get close with calipers unless you use a lifetime of accumulated Zen.

    When I have a gun that won't chamber .4532" boolits, but leads with .4528" and under boolits, I need to know just exactly how big my sizer is making them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warf73 View Post
    Depending on a caliper for exact measurements is like using your bathroom scale to measure out powder charges.
    Might work OK for a cannon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMinPHX View Post
    Might work OK for a cannon...
    CHARGE FOUR! GREEN BAG!! I SEE RED!!!
    Old Cannon Cocker lingo, there.
    Some of the Field Artiller charges for the 8" SP Howitzer were quite a handful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warf73 View Post
    Third generation machinist been doing the machining gig since age 22 (running a 6 axis machine as I type this) and the best piece of advice about using a caliper. Calipers are reference ONLY nothing more, you want exact pull out the mic.
    Depending on a caliper for exact measurements is like using your bathroom scale to measure out powder charges.
    Machining for a long time, own a complete shop. I agree almost completely with Warf73. Calipers aren't quite that bad. To put numbers around it - if it needs to be more precise than 0.002", use a mic. And don't confuse accuracy and repeatability, nor ignore either.

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    Joking aside, in the shop I used to work at, we used to call verniers "very nears". That kind of sums it up in my opinion.
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    In our shop we call them "Precision C-clamps". All joking aside, they have their place and for 99% of our stuff they do good but nothing replaces a good set of micrometers.

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    its a tool...a precision tool
    it will never be better than the operator.

    they work...if you can work them......


    i do own outside mic's up to 9 inches, and up to 100mm.....and a dial indicator with a 4 inch movement.........
    but a 6" dial/digital caliper works well for a lot of stuff.........

    and if you think they are c clamps...go look at what some of them cost....


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    For reloading purposes a 6" dial caliper .001 does does it all. I only use my mics .0001 to measure bullets I make. Now I have a couple Chinese 12" calipers I use one with my Davidson comparator and the other one for general purpose measurements where .001 is fine which is about 99% of the time for a reloader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    All of my equipment goes through an Air Force PMEL Lab for calibration






    Thats me!! 14 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_charlie View Post
    The opportunity for incorrect readings comes when you vary the thumbwheel pressure as you close down on a bullet (or whatever). Roll just a little harder than 'just right' and you start to get low readings. When you do that with the jaws closed together, you can get the needle to deflect below zero.

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    I don't have that problem, I have a Genuine Harbor Freight Caliper, Not some cheap knockoff.
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    Yesterday on the way back from our maintenance chore at Angeles Range I took my unpaid White laborers to Harbor Freight to look around. My Social Security dependant worker wanted to look at the electonic caliper for sale for $10. It was metal and read to .0005 so I bought one to, like I need one. But mine are all dial so spelled numbers are quick. I use a caliper for general measurements use my mics for closer stuff.

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    a Starrett dial micrometerr....and a Lufkin mic.....plus a couple of "joe-blocks" for checking against...is all you need
    that and a good touch !

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    Agreed

    Only got two hands how many cases can one measure at the same time.

    Stephen Perry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter6br View Post
    a friend of mine who was a Tool and Die guy said" It aint a C-Clamp"
    That said it all .!

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