I've got a #6 ogive for .224" swaging that has worked out really well for use in my AR-15 so far going with a 61gr open tip bullet, using wolf .22 brass. I'm curious if anybody has gone with a smaller ogive like a 4 or 5 and what kind of results they have had with it. I'm looking at making lighter bullets but also going with less of an ogive. The only thing that worries me by just backing out the point form die and doing the same thing is amount of bearing surface.